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alteregotrip 09-28-2002 09:11 PM

hiding or deleting aliases on my start up drive
 
I have some aliases that are owned by "root" that are on my parent directory on my start up drive, is it ok to delete them? if not can I hide them in any way?


Thanks

Chris

mervTormel 09-28-2002 09:40 PM

explain "parent directory". all directories have parent dirs except the top level.

don't delete them; just show us the particular ones you're interested in.

rakka_dakka 09-28-2002 09:52 PM

is directories like var, tmp, etc, dev, and all the others that are aliases?
you better not delete them because some of the system commands in OS X look for those directories there. when the system looks there and finds the directory it goes into the real one. if you wanted to delete them, you would have to change alot in the system. they rely on these aliases. delete them if you want. but let me warn you the consequences won't be to pleasing.
have fun:D


Rakka

alteregotrip 09-28-2002 10:37 PM

top level...
 
it is the top level directory that I meant.

the aliases that I am refering to are...

cores (mac OS 9)
etc (Mac OS 9)
tmp (Mac OS 9)
var (Mac OS 9)


why are they there, and if I should not delete them can I make them invisible?

thanks

rakka_dakka 09-28-2002 10:48 PM

do you mean to say that these files are in the os 9 partition? if these are in the os X partition then they should be hidden by default. are you looking at this partition from another startup disk/partition? if you are then they will usually showup. try and give a bit more details as in what system is the startup drive you see the alias directories. and if they are on a seperate partition..
maybe then it will be easier to see your situation


rakka

mervTormel 09-28-2002 11:29 PM

do not delete these. don't look at them. just drive on.

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 03:03 AM

partitions
 
I only have one drive that is not partitioned.

they are in my top level directory right along with "applications, Applications (Mac OS 9), System Folder, System, Library etc..."

I am booting in X and they are not invisible...

ok, so I am not supposed to delete them, how do I make it so I don't have to look at them?


thx

rakka_dakka 09-29-2002 03:46 AM

one question. are these files that are supposed to be hidden used for os X or 9?
what are the first 5 folders/files in /etc?
if they are OS 9 files, then they are not supposed to be invisible, only invisible when booting from 9. if these are OS X files, then they are supposed to be hidden. the only folders supposed to appear in the parent/root directory of the hard disk are:

-Applications
-Library
-System
-Users

Thats all that's supposed to be there, along with those OS 9 things.
but what is strange that the hidden files are appearing when they shouldn't.
are you using any freeware haxies or plugins such as tinkertool?
or did you change the hidden directories through the terminal or something?


rakka

mervTormel 09-29-2002 04:29 AM

did you delete the .hidden file from the root dir? or have you used tinkertool to enable "show hidden files"?

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 04:38 AM

tinkertool
 
I did have tinkertool at one time on an older version of osX
but I reformated my hard drive since then

just to check though I went ahead and got it again and installed it
it has the "Show hidden and system files" unchecked so it must be something else.


hmmm.

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 04:41 AM

.hidden
 
I doubt it, I haven't gotten that deep into things as of yet.

unix is not my usual stomping grounds.

I knew my way around preX, but I suppose that might make me dangerous in X

I still don't think I deleted that or anything else that shouldn't.

mervTormel 09-29-2002 04:44 AM

open terminal.app and type at the % prompt:
Code:

% ls -l /.hidden
copy and paste the results here

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 04:46 AM

.hidden
 
Last login: Fri Sep 27 20:56:32 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
[f8alistic:~] christop% ls -1 /.hidden
/.hidden
[f8alistic:~] christop%

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 05:00 AM

use in osx or os9
 
I don't really know which system they are used for

I assume its actually for classic, but I don't know.

the first 5 files in etc are...

6to4.conf
afpovertcp.cfg
authorization
bashrc
crontab

I don't recognize them or anything else from os9

-c

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 05:03 AM

parent directory
 
I did look all of the files parent is "Private" which is hidden as my top level directory is its parent.

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 05:13 AM

ls top level directory
 
ok , so I ls on the tld and I get a bunch of items that are invisible in the finder
why would some be invisible and others not?


[f8alistic:/] christop% ls
???Move&Rename Shutdown Check dev (Mac OS 9)
AppleShare PDS System etc
Applications System Folder etc (Mac OS 9)
Applications (Mac OS 9) TheFindByContentFolder mach
Cleanup At Startup TheVolumeSettingsFolder mach.sym
Desktop (Mac OS 9) Trash mach_kernel
Desktop DB Users private
Desktop DF Volumes sbin
Desktop Folder Volumes (Mac OS 9) sbin (Mac OS 9)
Developer automount tmp
Documents bin tmp (Mac OS 9)
Icon? bin (Mac OS 9) usr
Library cores usr (Mac OS 9)
Network cores (Mac OS 9) var
Network (Mac OS 9) dev var (Mac OS 9)


Formatting is destroyed...

rakka_dakka 09-29-2002 05:20 AM

Some are OS X files...
 
...and yes, some of them should be hidden. it doesn't make sense. you must have played around with a few commands in the terminal and changed the hidden files mode...

usually it is not a good idea to install both os x and os 9 on the same partition..


rakka

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 05:37 AM

9&X
 
I thought that 9 had to be on the same partition in order to get classic to work?

rakka_dakka 09-29-2002 06:01 AM

no actually in the classic pref pane in system preferences you can specify which partition os 9 is on. it is better to have os x and os 9 on different partitions so that there would be no confusion..


rakka

alteregotrip 09-29-2002 02:01 PM

partition
 
Can it be on a seperate drive?


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