Just as long as it doesn't eat my graphics card alive... :(

I still need money to upg to a new graphics card, and all these fancy features make it sound like a 32mb card won't cut it. I just got Tiger too...

I almost forgot about that aspect, Photek. I have most of family buying a Mac as their next computer and they will need a good deal of retraining. Er, I mean "thinking different". The fact that I won't have to buy Remote Desktop in order to assist them with their new Mac will be a blessing.


Also, they pointed out how MS is copying Apple, but I noticed that many of the other features they showcased have been available in other OSs for some time.

Yeah i felt the same way...although of course they are better on OS X :)

I was not implying any wrongdoing, merely asking a question. I do not have, perhaps, the familiarity with the myriad of Mac apps that are out there; hence my question.

FYI, there's a Pandora widget here:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/20173

The graphics card in Macbooks and Mac mini's are nothing special, I'm sure they'll work with it, infact certain. So your graphics card should cope.

I've just finished watching the 1hour 20min Keynote presentation on apples website. The only thing I didn't like is the release date, Spring 07 that means we are gonna have to wait at least until march if not June! Thats 7-10 months. They will have added a lot more features however and tested it well for bugs. Whats the chances of it being released before Vista. At least we'll be able to use it when it's released.
If Vista does launch in January the PC users will still have to wait 6-12 months for the flaws to be ironed out and a SP. The memories of XP

iChat Leopard Sneak Peak Not Working right!
 

Is it just me or does the iChat QT preview freeze up, turn semi transparent white just as the guy relaxes in the beach scene?

System software is up-to-date, just wondered if anyone else was experiencing the same thing - tried it on the Macs at work - same problem.

I guarantee we'll start seeing a whole lot of both innovative and crappy new interfaces. There was a joke made during the Core Animation presentation about how Apple's human interface guidelines don't mean anything anymore. Even the Apple folks laughed at that.

It's a beta what do you exspect?

No I didn't make myself clear not the software but the vidoe preview here:

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/leopard/ichat.html

but no worries because it's finally playing all the way through!

Time Machine is a backup program, not a recovery program. When you plug in an external HD, Leopard asks if you want to use it as your backup disk. There's only one problem that I can think of. Imagine this: someone is working on a top-secret Apple project. He sends the file to his boss, then deletes it because there's a Microsoft spy in Apple. Then he goes and gets a coffee. The spy goes to his computer, looks around for the file, and does not find it. Then he activates Time Machine, gets the file, and leaves.
What I'm saying is that sometimes you don't want to be able to get a file back. There has to be a way to remove a file from the backup.

I heard you could exclude any folder from the backup. Just add any folders you don't want the lawyers to see and that might do it.

I'm not sure what you meant by the above, but the most important part of TimeMachine is the user-interface for file recovery.

I heardThere are too many people in the room TimeMachine session at WWDC. I'm sure some people can't enter the room...

I like the look of time machine and im hoping the AD Plugin will be improved and Steve is hiding the best features until the full release. I am installing the Leopard beta now. OMG 5gb install disk lucky i bought those dual layered dvd disks last yeaR!!!!

I think he simply meant that it won't recover deleted data, unbacked-up deleted data.

Fortunately, if you use Time Machine correctly "unbacked-up deleted data" shouldn't be an issue.

Well the console has changed a bit and now has a mcx debug log - interesting! Ad plugin has moved to version 1.6 :) Got to be good. Impressed with the beta

I found this Google Video clip of the upcoming Spaces interacting with Expose in 9 virtual desktops. I can't imagine ever needing that many, but it was cool to watch to anyway.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32624913848469

I know that *nx desktops have had this feature for a decade but Apple has really done a masterful job of implementing it better.

I think time machine is more a data convience for the user than it is a solid back up method. Even though apple states you can back it up to a server (which I will assume is a network share) no one knows how much data it takes up and I am almost 100% positive it will not change the methods of which back ups are made.

It is a lot like system recovery on a windows box with a few exceptions. 1) it must be set up on some sort of external or extra HD that the OS does not run on. 2) it backs up everything by default and custom settings by custom where as MS system restore does not touch any user data ever, it just keeps track of the registry and drivers and system files

So really to me time machine seems more like a data convience for folk who tend to delete an email too early or perhaps have multiple versions of similiar documents and delete them before they need to do so. Or just the trigger happy delete users who delete everything they don't think they need with out first taking the time to determine if that is what is to be done.

It sounds like a decent feature overall, but its not a deal breaker for me and I honestly probably won't ever use it. I keep my data backed up over a network and then by back up device after that. Anything else is trivial since I make master images of machines and update them as I can. So really since data is stored on a different location and backed up immidiatedly and often I would rather just wipe the machine and reimage it, and then restore data from the back up.

One thing not mentioned, I really hope time machine offers some sort of driver roll back. I have had a few drivers botch a few OS X installs in the past and I really wish there was an easier way to roll back. MS windows has one of the better features when it comes to this. You can even roll back during an install. I had an older audio driver crash windows the other day in one of our animation labs, during the install it crashed and I chose to cancel the install and it completely rolled back the install taking all the files off. That is a feature I would like to see in every OS.

Spaces is probably one of the few features I look forward to. Being a linux user multiple desktops have been something I have used for a while now. It is about time apple adopted it.

I also want to see more user customization of the UI. I want themes, and to be able to change a lot of default settings on windows, the dock, and desktop management. I have always found it weird that a company that has their slogan as "think different" doesn't allow the user to think different on how the OS is laid out. I mean come on, everyone has their own preferences so just let the users have their choice. I also want to see more customization of the finder. Sometimes I wish I could rearrange the finder UI when browsing through certain files and especially when using a multiple button mouse. I really want the cycloptic mouse to die. I love having right click options and I love being able to customize right click options.

core animation seems like apple tossing the devs a bone. perhaps if applications like retrospect take advantage of time machine APIs, then we might see some worthy apps and you might see some nice native features pop up. this soley relies on the mac dev community. hopefully open source will pick up some of this stuff and make something cool. however, i hold no expectations either way until i see some stuff.

The rest is well, we will just have to wait until its release.

Leopard should reflect ethical, strategic choices
 

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Apple has got my attention – I’m looking forward to Leopard with careful expectations. But I am more concerned with strategy than features, and I would like to see Leopard reflect some moral choices that also make good business sense.

TimeMachine seems interesting, but I hope it comes with clear options that easily enable me to delete a file. Permanently. But I like Tom Larkin’s idea of roll-back on the driver front – in fact, I wonder to what degree TimeMachine will enable “going back” in terms of software updates that don’t work, etc.

Spaces seems like a very natural way to organise my computer activities.

Widgets haven’t interested me much before, but the idea of Dashcode enabling me to easily make customised widgets sounds enticing. That would give convenient access to the most interesting stuff on the Web.

As software developers take advantage of Apple’s full-fledged, 64-bit OSX, Jobs & co should be able to underscore the Mac advantace, translating it into further market share gains.

All that is fine and well – but I would also like to see Apple making a strategic decision: To chart their path ahead with stricter ethics.

1.) That means evaluating third-party software to see what is worth incorporating into Leopard, and then giving deserved credit and remuneration for that.

2.) I would like to see Apple incorporate Little Snitch into OSX, and state clearly that they will respect users being in control of their machines.

3.) I want to see Apple take a far more pro-active approach to users’ security.

In the long term, such a crystal-clear strategic decision would work to Apple’s advantage. I believe it would weigh heavily also with corporate clients who are tempted to reevaluate platforms after being fed up with Microsoft’s arrogance and security failings for years. (Did I say "reevaluate platforms"? With BootCamp and Intel-embracing Macs everyone can have their Apple and eat it too.)

Such ethical choices would also represent an open challenge to the rest of the players on the market. Come to think of it, improved ethics will only strenghen Apple’s cool factor.

Best regards,
ArcticStones