I've tried looking at TFM and it says to use disk utility to copy a cd. This isn't working with any of my audio cd's. These are rather old cd's so I doubt they have any copy protection on them. How do you exactly copy an audio cd, under osx.

Thanks, I just got my first mac and this is one I'm having trouble with.

the non technical way would be to import the CD into iTunes, make a new playlist of the songs and burn it to a blank CD. Whole process may take 6-8 mins.

Be aware of the quality you import at (aiff or wav are best) and obviously set it to burn as an 'Audio CD' not an mp3 one!

Not Any? How are you trying to copy them in Disk Utility?

The following are the steps to duplicate a CD/DVD with Disk Utility:

nope
 

The itunes way doesn't do it right, because the gaps are wrong and some cd's have wrong pre-gaps. I'm just looking for a simple way to backup all my cd's.

The Disk Utility way doesn't work because when you fo to File->new->

it doesn't have the drive there, it just says select a drive, even if the cd drive is selected. The screwy thing is that this works just fine with data cd's.

What the hell? I'm not trying to do anything wierd, and this has worked with other computers since my first cd burner. What was apple thinking this should be simple.

Seams like no one knows the answer to this, the only thing I've heard is to buy a $100 package in addition, and then it doesn't even work on intel macs. Sorry for the rant but this is pretty damn stupid.

It might be useful if you showed us a screen capture of Disk Utility when you are trying to do this.
(Press Command + Shift + 4 and then sweep out the area. The image file will be "Picture 1" on your Desktop.)

I use clone cd and it sees all my drives on install.
When I back up my cds, I just choose to copy in the main menu and then click on music cd. I have never had a copy fail yet. Hope this helps.

I have the same problem
 

I am unable to create a disk image from a music cd using Disk utility.
The music cd appears in Disk Utility however "File > New > Disk Image from" is not an available option - it is grayed out.
I have screen shots but I don’t have the necessary permissions to upload to the forum.

Does this happen with all music CDs or just some?
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I have tried several music cds all with the same result. I have tried both music cds created in iTunes and store bought with the same results. "The File > New > Disk Image from" option is available with all other data disks I have tried. It appears to be only music cds.

Here are the screen shots from Disk Utility -
This shows the CD:
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This shows that I cannot select "Disk Image From":
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You don't seem to have selected anything on the list of devices in the upper left. Try clicking on the CD drive name.

Actually, it doesn't show anything highlighted in the first picture, so we can't tell what you've got selected when you took the second picture. You've got to select the audio CD itself "776.6 MB MATSHITADV..." not the partition "Greatest Hits".

The likely explanation is that you're selecting "Greatest Hits". Note the message in the New > Disk Image From? It says (Select a Device). This is a tip to select the device not the partition.

Trevor

Sorry the first image didn't show it. The following screen shots show it does not work if I select the drive or partition.
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This shot shows that the option is available if I select the HD
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Here is a screen shot showing that the "Disk Image From" option is available if the cd is a data cd rather than a audio cd
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Has anyone else been able to image an audio cd? Is the possibly a form of copy protection built into OSX?

Thanks for helping with this.

Yes, I can image audio CDs with no problem.

Trevor

I'm a pc person by trade but I use my 12" PowerBook G4 for everything fun, cool and not work related. I admit I'm not a Mac expert. Is there some setting somewhere that I'm missing? I'm wondering if this thread's original poster is still having the issue and what Mac they are using.

-Jeff

Reading this thread i tried it as well and the result is:
I can't make images the way trevor can.

I am using a G5, Dual 2.0 GHz, with 10.4.6.

assuna

I'm not aware of any setting like that.

Are you an Admin user?

Can you put an audio CD into your drive, allow it to mount, then open up Terminal (an app in /Applications/Utilities) and copy/paste the following commands from the forum to the Terminal's command line, one line at a time? You might have to hit the Return key at the end of a command after you copy/paste.

ls -alo /Volumes
diskutil list

Trevor

Here is what it displayed:

Last login: Fri May 26 11:25:36 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
You have new mail.
Bodach-Mac:~ bodach$ ls -alo /Volumes
total 54
drwxrwxrwt 6 root admin - 204 May 26 11:27 .
drwxrwxr-t 33 root admin - 1224 May 21 16:41 ..
dr-xr-xr-x 2 bodach bodach - 5016 May 26 11:27 Greatest Hits
drwx------ 3 bodach admin - 102 Jun 11 2005 LATHAM;MAINCOMPUTER
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin - 1 May 21 16:41 Macintosh HD -> /
drwx------ 1 bodach admin - 16384 Apr 10 15:25 PowerBook
Bodach-Mac:~ bodach$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
#: type name size identifier
0: Apple_partition_scheme *74.5 GB disk0
1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 KB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 74.4 GB disk0s3
/dev/disk1
#: type name size identifier
0: CD_partition_scheme Greatest Hits *776.6 MB disk1
1: CD_DA 94.2 MB disk1s1
2: CD_DA 102.3 MB disk1s2
3: CD_DA 30.7 MB disk1s3
4: CD_DA 37.1 MB disk1s4
5: CD_DA 38.5 MB disk1s5
6: CD_DA 32.2 MB disk1s6
7: CD_DA 56.2 MB disk1s7
8: CD_DA 30.7 MB disk1s8
9: CD_DA 22.4 MB disk1s9
10: CD_DA 34.5 MB disk1s10
11: CD_DA 31.9 MB disk1s11
12: CD_DA 84.7 MB disk1s12
13: CD_DA 31.5 MB disk1s13
14: CD_DA 50.8 MB disk1s14
15: CD_DA 47.8 MB disk1s15
16: CD_DA 51.0 MB disk1s16
Bodach-Mac:~ bodach$


So, what did I just do?

You didn't make any changes, you just got us some information about your volumes and their permissions.

What is that? That looks anomalous. Let us know if it's something expected.

In any event, below is a workaround to image audio CDs with Disk Utility. This works for me in Tiger:

1. In Disk Utility, select the CD in the left pane..

2. Select the File menu > New > Disk Image From Folder...

3. A box will popup "Select Folder to Image". In the top right is a search box. Click on the search box to enable it, then type into it a forward slash (the '/', in other words.) This will bring up a new sheet labelled "Go To The Folder". Finish typing
/Volumes
into the dialog. Note that the initial V is capitalized. If you type this in all lower-case, you seem to be sent to the root folder, so capitalize correctly.

4. Select the name of the CD that you want to image, and click the "Image" button.

5. You will get another dialog box allowing you to select where you want to save the disc image. You can choose somewhere convenient, such as your Desktop if you wish. Image format should be set to DVD/CD master. Unless you need to protect it for some reason, set Encryption to none.

6. When the process is done, you will have a file with the name of your audio CD and the extension .cdr on your Desktop, or wherever you decided to save it.

Trevor

Thank you. That workaround worked perfectly.

as for that volume "drwx------ 3 bodach admin - 102 Jun 11 2005 LATHAM;MAINCOMPUTER"

I was wondering about it as well. I believe that it is from when I was logged into a friend's windows network. His workgroup was called LATHAM and the computer was MAINCOMPUTER. Why is this still here. Can I delete it? If yes, how?

Thanks for all of your help.
-Jeff

If you are logged in as bodach, then all you should have to do is launch Terminal and copy/paste the following command:

rm -r /Volumes/LATHAM\;MAINCOMPUTER

Note that the backslash before the semicolon is not a mistype--that is so that the semicolon is used explicitly and not as a divider between commands.

After issueing the command above, you should get no response, just another prompt. If that happens, everything went well and the directory and its contents were deleted. You can verify that it's gone with ls -al /Volumes

If you get an error message, let us know and we'll help further.

Trevor

Thank you! All worked perfectly.
-Jeff

Yeah, and you have to be computer scientist to do it. I have 10.3.9 and I'm telling you the "image from device" option is greyed out with an audio CD and not a data CD, and I'm selecting the device, not the partition name.

The workaround proposed by someone else (below) by choosing "Image from Folder" and navigating to the mount point under "/Volumes" works, but it's a pain in the ass and takes forever.

Importing into iTunes (after insuring to select WAV format or lossless format for full fidelity) then burning is also indirect.

I should be able to insert the CD, right click on it, select duplicate, and that's it.

This didn't work for me.
It just creates a data CD with aiff sound files, even though I picked DVD/CD master and the image had a *.cdr extension.
There's NO WAY to copy CD's without importing into iTunes. I think this is part of Apple's iTunes deal -- prevent people from making fair-use backups with their software.

The only way I am aware of to exactly duplicate an audio CD on a mac is to use unix tools
try cdrdao
or X-cdroast
via Fink or darwin ports
Both work flawlessly for me
Check out also MAX 0.6 the first "secure" CD ripper for mac osx which can rip a cd as one long track with a cue file that you should be able to burn with cdrdao

Although I'm convinced that I tested the truth of this statement using Disk Utility before posting, I find that I cannot now reproduce this with Disk Utility. I am now also finding that New > Disk Image from (Select a Device) is grayed out with audio CDs.

In any event, if Disk Utility cannot do it, it can still be done very easily using other tools. Squabsy mentions cdrdao above, which is a free command-line program. I've also done this many times using Toast.

Trevor

Trevor,

thanks for those steps. They seemed to work, only the audio CD I was dealing with was maxed out on space (right around 700MB). When it was converted to a CD/DVD Master, somehow it expanded to 866MB, which prevented me from then burning any copies from it. Do you know why this happened?

Jonathan