Are you classic free?
 

So, let's hear it. Do you use classic still? Do even have it installed on your HD? Or are you waiting for that one application to be ported? (Don't you hate that?)

You don't have to reply to vote.

I still use Classic for:

• ResEdit - handy for various hacks, even in OS X

• QuickBooks - I'm using AccountEdge now but old records in QB (of course QB coming to OS X next year...)

I still need it for digitizing with a high-end Aurora video card, as well as for doing things in DVD Studio Pro that work under OS 9 but that are broken under OS X (Load/Save Description is the main one that comes to mind, but there are other problems as well).

Supposedly Aurora drivers are due by year's end, and I can always hope for DVDSP bug fixes....

Graphing Calculator
 

I have to use it for Graphing Calculator (as a university mathematics teacher, I find it indispensible). I don't mean the Graphing Calculator that used to ship on the PPC's of the mid-to-late 90's, but its descendant, Graphing Calculator 3.2. It is still in development by Pacific Tech (http://www.PacificT.com) but due to the time necessary to rewrite it for OS X and the shortage of cash at Pacific Tech, it will likely never make it to OS X. :(

Only a miracle (such as Apple or some large entity agreeing to pay some of the bill) will change this unfortunate fact. [See http://www.PacificT.com/MacOSX.html, if interested.]

Graphing Calculator embodies the beauty of the Macintosh. Sure, MAPLE or Mathematica (et al) might be more powerful, but the overhead necessary to learn to use them gets in the way of instruction. Nothing can do more as easily as Graphing Calculator.

I apologize for crying on your collective shoulders.

Happily Classic free since Photoshop 7 started shipping.

Not only do I have to use OS 9 to sync my Handspring Treo 90, I can't even do it in Classic mode. I have to actually reboot.

David

Still Classic it for: ExaChess, iSong. When I actually boot into OS 9, I run DiskWarrior.

Classic Sux
 

I need classic everyday for Kaleidagraph and DNA Strider, rather obscure science apps. Waiting for Endnote 6 update so I can use 10.2 as well. Boo hoo!
And, by all accounts, I don't see Kaleidagraph coming out for OSX until 2004. No classic termination just yet. Bummer.

Classic?
 

Classic? what is classic? OS9? You mean some people DON'T USE OSX??:rolleyes:

I don't have classic installed anymore!:D

Nearly Classic Free
 

I don't like the sloppy install of AIM for Mac OS X.. so I boot into Mac OS 9.2.2 when I need to add AIM buddies to the AOL servers. I find it difficult to swallow that a normal program install (AIM for Mac OS X) needs an admin password, yuck.

That (and deleting pesky files at times, using Greg's Browser - the predecesor of columns view) is basically all I use Mac OS 9.2.2 for. I may stop doing that as well - AOL seems to be getting smarter about Mac OS X than they ever were with Mac OS 9 and under..

The big jump for me happened when Palm released Palm Desktop final for Puma.

Jacques

I still have Classic around to run a few things that haven't been ported, like DeltaGraph, SPSS, and MCL. I'm not optimistic about DeltaGraph, but SPSS should be soon and MCL has been in "any day now" state for a very long time so I'm beginning to wonder...

I was classic-free until Jaguar shipped....now my scanner only works under OS 9....

OS 9 but not Classic
 

I still boot up into OS 9 to do my audio projects with ProTools...but now that you mention it, I haven't used Classic for a while now.

Classic?
 

Classic free at work. I still have it at home for a few games and PageMaker.

Classic Free here....
 

With the availability of exchange server access via Entourage (and now with Mail) and the porting over of MatLab (though it is still broken under 10.2 :confused: ) I am happily a full time X user.

check out vuescan . Jaguar also rendered my canon scanner invisible (although it was previously only useful in classic anyways). This forced me to look elsewhere, and Vuescan supports many scanners.
You will need to go to the "advanced" tab, since the default settings are way too minimal. BUT, it is better scanning software than the bundled canoscan.
I immediately paid the shareware fee.
AND that made it the last thing I needed classic for. woohoo!

Yes, I've been using VueScan for several years now (and probably have archived the several hundred updates Ed Hamrick has released....) starting with a Polaroid scanner. As hard as it may be to believe, Nikon's Scanner software was actually better to use with my Nikon ED8000. Previous versions of VueScan had some troubles with some of the large medium format images I scan (6 x 9 cm); I found it wasn't worth the effort to go through the debug process (to which Mr. Hamrick is amazingly responsive and helpful) when I had nicely working scanner software. However, I have now updated to the latest version--so will give it a spin.

Personally. I took it off my iBook. I don't need it for day-to-day use. I still have it on my iMac for some older games and VirtualPC (which is faster in OS 9). If I go on a good drunk, it might get wiped off the iMac, as well. (That would be after I get that tatoo...) :D

finally
 

ok, NOW I am finally classic-free, tonight I installed Microsoft Office X upgrade.
The only reason for me now to use classic is for very old games I rarely play anymore.

(interesting side note about Microsoft: The CD key pasted to the booklet was invalid. I called microsoft, and sure enough, it was invalid and they gave me a different one, but let me tell you, it was a very frustrating 20 minutes of retyping the same serial key everywhich way I could think of and trying other remedies.

whoda thunkit?

You've gotta be kidding.

Not only do I have a batch of classic apps, a decent-sized subset of them are 68K apps, not even PowerPC native!

(There is hope for me though. I've pretty much ditched the ones that aren't 32-bit clean or won't run right on anything but a 1-bit screen).

Still have a 9.2.2 basic install, mostly for sentimental reason :)

Cheers...

I still use a majority of classic software either:
because OSX updates haven't come (Quark, Statview, SPSS),
because OS X lacks appropriate font handling (Adobe Type Manager).
or because I'm a Luddite and prefer my old-and-familiar programs (Word 5.1, Endnote). The latter don't work so well in the classic mode, so soon I will need to cough up Word and Endnote updates.

Although I use a majority of classic software, I prefer OSX interface. The cost of updates is a real factor in weighing a complete switch.

Zip Zap Zop
 

I had to boot in Mac OS 9 the other day to reformat a Zip disc! Since the disc was in PC format, Mac OS X could not edit the name of it! (no such prob in Mac OS 9)

Iomega Tools does not install in Mac OS X (v3.5), so I had to install it in Mac OS 9 so that I could reformat the disc.

That's the first time in quite a while I was forced out of Mac OS X.. <sigh>

I'm getting closer every day.

Lerkfish, I must thank you for suggesting VueScan! :) You have just put me one step closer to full OS X, but best yet, you have now made it so that I no longer have a need to boot in OS 9! :D Now if my registration email will just arrive, I'll be home free on scanning. :)

I'm still waiting on a handful of software upgrades which are in the works, but not released yet. I can't let go of Classic mode until those upgrades become available.

AHunter3, just a few months ago, I was also in your position. I was still running OS 8.1 with some software and hardware limping along. I couldn't even upgrade to OS 8.6 without major hardware and software upgrades. The upgrade to OS X has been a very long and costly experience, but one I have not regretted. One big reminder of why I'm happy to finally be upgrading is when a Classic app crashes, bringing down Classic and all other Classic apps with it. All of my OS X apps continue to run, totally unaffected. Each time this happens, I am reminded that I would have suffered a total crash had I been running a previous OS version. Although I thoroughly enjoy the OS X interface, it is the OS X stability that makes it worth all of the time, effort and money I've spent on upgrading.

My VueScan registration email just arrived! :)

not looking back
 

i have four machines, two are X only and the other two are too old to run os X. the 7100 i am wanting to put MKLinux on, but i am still using it for my DNS and email server. the 8500 i am running Yellow Dog Linux on and i have to use the mac os to get Yellow Dog to boot, but it is not in classic much, only when i need to run Kodak Camera Manager or Kodak Capture Studio for the pro line of cameras.

jeffo

Back to using Classic, Again.
 

I'm back to using Classic, again (actually booting into OS 9). Thanks to Medal Of Honor. If I run it in OS X I get about 20FPS (max of 32) standard and it usually degrades when two enemies are on screen. If I boot into OS 9 I get about 80FPS the lowest I've gotten in OS 9 is about 40ish FPS.

Can anyone explain why this happens? No I'm not complaining, I'm seriously wondering why. Same graphics card, same amount of memory, etc... Just different OS. Strange...

- Daniel

I'm one step closer! Just downloaded Palm desktop software that syncs with my Treo 90 natively.

http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/157-1.htm
and
http://support.handspring.com/esupp...solutionId=8543

David

90%
 

Mostly I use 10.2.1. Classic only comes into play when I use Poser 4 (Poser 5 is coming out for PC first, as usual:mad: )
Once in a great while I boot to 9.2.2 to play games like Myst 3 etc.

Adobe has already said that they are not going to port ATM to Mac OS X. Many of my clients are moving to Suitcase (which has a Mac OS X version) to be ready when QuarkXPress finally gets up to speed. Plus some people have said that InDesign is a nice alternative (because the interface is so much like Photoshop and Illustrator).

On my PowerBook (which is my work system) I have it set up to only boot into Jaguar, and I think that today was the first time in about three weeks that I actually started up the classic environment in Jaguar. I still have non-native apps, but I used them so little that the cost of upgrading them is just not worth it.

On my iMac, I tend to boot into Mac OS 9 quite a lot... but that is mainly because of the amount of games that I play (and quicktime editing) and not for productivity reasons.

I'm Free
 

Well I have it installed but only because it was installed as part of 10.1 when I bought my systems...

I'm running 10.2.1 now and it's still hanging around but I do not boot into it and it has never been started, everything I need is under X... something things that I thought cool in 9 I'm waiting on but not much and I can live with out them until they get accross..

Since having X the functionality of my system and my productivity has gone through the roof!

I can just drop into a shell whenever I feel like it, I can write perl code in BBedit and run it in the shell...

I can go out and about with my laptop, reliase I've left a file on the desktop, and connect to the desktop and "scp" the file over to the laptop...

I can even start up a webserver on my laptop which can run perl and PHP scripts while on a customers site!, nar this is way too cool...windows you have nothing on this...

---Zed :cool:

Classic Apps: The good, the bad, the ugly
 

Here are the things which still make me keep classic:

- Adobe Photoshop 5.5 LE
As I have only legal software on my machine, I rather keep classic than cough up the dough to upgrade

- Canon DigitalCamera Software
There are some things I need special software for (i.e. QTVR Panoramas) and I really would wish Canon would update their stuff to OS X

- Microsoft Exchange 2001
Unfortunately I need this for my office eMail, and I really, really hope Microsoft will update it very soon.

Alex

Never used it!
 

I dumped it because I have never in my life (long) uned it. I have been using FreeBSD since the early 80's. I have never used a Mac before OS X and Darwin, of course.

Waiting for Canon's Bloody update
 

Not yet. The only thing that prevents me from trashing OS 9 is an X update from Canon for their G1 PowerShot Camera, namely the Raw Converter software. I will never buy another Canon Digital Camera. It's pretty obvious from what I read that they prefer to support the Dark Side. I don't understand why Apple promotes Canon wares. Nikon rocks!:mad:

Re: Waiting for Canon's Bloody update
 

I would not go that far, I love my G2, and if I was a rich man - deedeldum - an EOS 60 would be in my hands.
Actually I did not yet complain to Canon about the lack of OS X software, maybe we should just bring it to their attention more. Canon actually listens to customer input (sometimes, at least).

Alex

Re: Waiting for Canon's Bloody update
 

Sure Canon has good cameras and optics, I don't doubt that. It's just that for a company of this size and quality, they have given no sign of fully supporting OS X. Canon has already announced a G3 model, I believe, and they still have not produced the supporting software for OS X (which has been around for quite a while now). I have complained to Canon. No reply, of course.

Norm:(

SASIxp
 

The fine folks at NCS Pearson produce a student information system called SASIxp. For well over a year now they have been "looking into" making it work in OS X. So far it won't even work in Classic! Because of them the entire 20,000 student K-12 school district can't move to OS X! All teachers and administrators must boot into 9 to run SASIxp. :(

Personally I just fix the computers and don't mess with student records so Jaguar is for me! :cool:

I use my Canon S200 (small camera) with Mac OS X only (Image Capture) and my Canon S520 (low-end printer) with Mac OS X only. (Why the names are so similar and yet are such different products, go figure..)

I love both, the software for the camera is simply something I don't use and the software for the printer installed wonderfully and is very well written.

I had to throw that in, to just even out the Canon critique!

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I don't use Classic at all.

SoundApp - does anyone know if this wonderful app is going to get ported to X? I use it to convert MPEG1 audio streams to QT streams. Using QT to do it makes it "mute".

Virtual GameStation - i'll eventually just abandon this in favor of using my real PlayStation, but can't until I mod my PSX to play imported games.

Newtourage - syncs my Newton 2100 to entourage X.

ResEdit - haven't touched it in a year... probably don't really need it anymore

Astarté CD-Copy - now long-defunct CD imaging program. I still use it to look at the "guts" of CDs.