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lostduck 02-18-2006 07:40 PM

Mac Market Share
 
Does anybody have information -possibly with access to the source- about Mac's market share in the laptop and desktop markets?

solipsism 02-18-2006 08:53 PM

I have one, my roommate has 2 and I know 5 people that have a total of 7. So that is at least 10. I hope that helps. :p







Seriously, I'm curious too. I'll see what I can find.

ArcticStones 02-19-2006 04:08 AM

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I suspect that Apple is intentionally keeping quiet about the increase in their market share, which I believe is impressive. Saving it for a Wow! point in one of Jobs’ keynote speeches.

I would love to see some reliable statistics here. And I am very curious as to how the transition to Intel-embracing Macs will influence those figures.

With best regards,
ArcticStones

Jay Carr 02-19-2006 06:25 PM

Maybe not wholly reliable, but the last report I saw put Mac's at 6-8 percent worldwide.

If I was going to mac a search I'd head on over to AppleInsider and search their archives. They keep track of that sort of thing.

AHunter3 02-19-2006 06:53 PM

One interesting thing about the Mac platform is that Macs as a percentage of total computers in use (installed base) always outstrips current Mac market share (computers being sold now). Macs last longer and people keep them longer.

Buried in this June '05 article is the offhand statistic that 16% of computers in deployment are Macs.

Phil St. Romain 02-19-2006 08:09 PM

This article pretty much supports the point that AHunter3 is making about Macs being around 16% of computers in active use:

Quote:

Ars is one of the few platform agnostic tech sites out there, and it shows in our stats. 67% of our readers use Windows, while 18% or Macintosh users, and 10% are Linux users. BSD (various flavors) comes in at about 2%, and rating below 1% were Solaris, BeOS, and SunOS. The remainder is "unknown." This is clearly not a reflection of the general market share out there, and we think it's a good indicator of our users' preferences.
The article is over a year old, but I'm seeing the same kind of stats on my web site these days.

lostduck 02-19-2006 10:43 PM

Thank you for the article; could it be that being a tech site the numbers are skewed? Is there an organization that tracks overall webstats? I actually was asking about sales of desktop and laptops, will try a few business publications.

Have searched macinsider but didn't find it.

eti 02-21-2006 02:12 PM

People used to say that we don't see any Mac viruses because Apple didn't have enough market share. If that's the case, recent news stories would suggest the market share is growing significantly.

:)

fat elvis 02-21-2006 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eti
People used to say that we don't see any Mac viruses because Apple didn't have enough market share. If that's the case, recent news stories would suggest the market share is growing significantly.

:)

The recent news stories are cashing in on our paranoia and giving more business to anti-virus firms. The Mac market share is increasing, however that is not the cause for these recent exploits.

The Mac OS has 416 downloads (available at Apple.com) that have the word "security" in it. There have been, are now, and will be more holes in the Mac OS.

Leveraging this into something similar to the scale of NIMDA virus will convince me. Until then...

Photek 02-21-2006 02:46 PM

It would be nice to know a definative answer on market share... I always thought it was 4-6%... but ALL my friends use macs and even my work is about a 35/65% split in fav of PC's....


I suppose you could kinda work it out from internet usage stats.... if 3.5% of the world use Safari.... probaibly another 4% of IEs massive 90% Market share would be Macs too.... then say another 2-3% making up Firefox, Camino, Opera, Shira ect...

My best guess is 10%.... highly scientific!

Craig R. Arko 02-21-2006 03:04 PM

Perhaps it's worth repeating that market share is the percentage of new machines sold in a given sales quarter; whereas installed base is the fraction of machines that are actually in use overall.

You folks are mostly talking installed base.

Apple's installed base has always been substantially higher than the market share, since Macs tend to have longer replacement cycles. At least in my 20+ years of working with both platforms. ;)

ArcticStones 02-22-2006 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHunter3
Buried in this June '05 article is the offhand statistic that 16% of computers in deployment are Macs.

Now that’s good tidings! :)

lostduck 02-22-2006 07:24 AM

from a taiwanese article
 
Quote:

Taipei, Feb. 20, 2006 (CENS)--Thanks to the projected sales boom of Apple Computer Inc. for this year, Taiwan’s leading contract computer manufacturers, including Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co., Quanta Computer Inc., and Asustek Computer Inc., are expected to enjoy growing orders from the U.S. computer giant.

Insiders indicated that the total sales volume of Apple’s desktop and notebook personal computers (PCs) is likely to challenge 10 million units for this year, which may help the company return to the world’s “top five computer brands” club.

Since the beginning this year Apple has adopted Intel’s processors for both of its desktop and notebook PCs. The company recently unveiled its first Intel processor-installed “iMac” desktop PCs in Taiwan and its “MacBook Pro” notebook PCs, also installed with Intel’s processors, will soon be marketed too.

Last year Apple sold about 4.8 million PCs, up 35% from the corresponding volume of a year earlier, and is ambitious to boost the volume to 10 million PCs this year.

Currently Hon Hai, Quanta, and Asustek are Apple’s major manufacturing contractors in Taiwan. Hon Hai produces mainly cathode ray tube (CRT) screens for Apple’s iMac desktop PCs, Quanta is in charge of liquid crystal display (LCD) screens for iMac and 14- and 15-inch LCD panels for MacBook Pro, and Asustek turns out ‘iBook’ notebook PCs for Apple as well.

In addition to producing CRT screens for Apple’s iMac, Hon Hai also generates displayers for Apple’s iPod music devices, which have gained increasing popularity in the world market.

The statistics compiled by International Data Corp. (IDC) showed that Apple shipped around 2.2 million notebook PCs last year, with 70% of which iBook models. Since Asustek is Apple’s key contractor for iBook PCs, it is expected to deliver three million notebook PCs for Apple this year; and Quanta is estimated to ship a total of two million desktop and notebook PCs to Apple.
Not shabby at all; now in order to determine the market share for last year, we'd just need to know how many wintel machines have been sold.

solipsism 02-22-2006 09:15 AM

I know I read something late last year about a reported 1 million people switched from PCs to Macs but I can't find any evidence of this article. Perhaps I'm just going crazy.

ArcticStones 11-02-2006 01:05 PM

Whopping rise in Apple market share
 
Great news!

The observations posted here and elsewhere seem right on the mark. :) Apple market share increase by more than a third in one year(!) – to 5.2% of newsales.

What’s even better: The growth seems to be accellerating. :cool:
Ten percent, here we come!!

ThreeDee 11-02-2006 01:22 PM

Well, WAY back in 6-7th grade or something, nobody knew what an iPod was, much less what a Mac was. Now, many people either say "I have a Mac, that new iMac Intel thing" or "Ohh yeah, don't they have less viruses and spyware or something? I don't believe it. And it's too expensive."

ArcticStones 03-03-2007 01:58 AM

Dramatic rise in Apple’s market share?
 
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I hope this story is accurate: Apple’s market share now at 6.28%, up over 2 points. Now, granted this is calculated in a rather novel way and still needs to be confirmed by actual sales figures -- but it is great news!

Just as impressively, but seen from a different angle: Mac sales more than doubled in January compared to the year-ago month.

marchutch 03-03-2007 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lostduck (Post 273326)
In addition to producing CRT screens for Apple’s iMac

Umm, am I missing something, or is this article really from 2006, several years AFTER Apple stopped using CRT technology in the iMac. I wouldn't trust this source much.....

GavinBKK 03-03-2007 06:16 AM

Yes and it also said "manufacturing iBooks" - only a month before the MB launched?? I would have thought that they would be running on inventory only by then, nichtwar?
G.

ArcticStones 03-03-2007 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marchutch (Post 362661)
Umm, am I missing something, or is this article really from 2006, several years AFTER Apple stopped using CRT technology in the iMac. I wouldn't trust this source much.....

You are missing something. Both of the articles cited in my post are from March 1st this year -- day before yesterday.

However, I purposely posted in a one-year-old thread in order to provide a historical perspective.

marchutch 03-03-2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 362671)
You are missing something. Both of the articles cited in my post are from March 1st this year -- day before yesterday.

However, I purposely posted in a one-year-old thread in order to provide a historical perspective.


Sorry artic, but YOU are missing the point. I was quoting Lost duck's article, not yours. I don't mind admitting I screwed up when I did.....

ArcticStones 03-05-2007 05:23 PM

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Really curious whether MacPro sales will take off with Adobe’s release of Creative Suite 3. I know a lot of designers here who have put off the purchase of new work stations until the software is in place...

(Marchutch: I didn’t immediately see that you were quoting Lostduck’s ol’ post. :o )

marchutch 03-06-2007 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 363148)
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Really curious whether MacPro sales will take off with Adobe’s release of Creative Suite 3. I know a lot of designers here who have put off the purchase of new work stations until the software is in place...

(Marchutch: I didn’t immediately see that you were quoting Lostduck’s ol’ post. :o )


I wouldn't mind betting that there is a lot of pent up demand for Mac Pros. But I doubt there is any concrete evidence out there one way or the other. The perrenial problem of proving intention, and translating prospects into sales etc etc. Damn marketing modules on my degree.....


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