There go my 15 seconds of fame all to hell.

Me.

Sao:

Too much bad info to address.
The Swiss own Sig 550s. That's a serious battle rifle. Not a hunting bolt gun. They own artillery.

Learn more here:

http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20...ates_on_in.php

http://www.newsbatch.com/gc-intgunsa.html

Suicide rates and gun ownership. Japan has 33% higher
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvintl.html

Only that distributed by the govt is inspected. Other ammuntion purchases are done and encouraged. Riflery is the national sport there. Instead of going bowling, the Swiss enter rifle competitions. Can't do that on a 200-round govt issue.

Their gun suicide rate is 25% less than the US, and their non-gun suicide rate is 76% higher. Care to draw any conclusions from that mish mash of data?

It is actually 25% less than Canada's. Go figger.

Swiss are active in the military for decades. And they can buy firearms outside of that jurisdiction as well. If a Swiss wants a gun, he can get a gun.

Anecdotal. Unconvincing.

I'm bored with you.

Rick

So . . . how about we get back to sharing favorite quotes now. Those of you taking issue with what somone posts can PM each other and work it out.

Moderators-

I know it might be asking to much, but can you remove all of the off-topic piecs and put them in a new, preferablly locked, thread?

Quote:
"Get a grip folks"
--Most people in this situation.

Here's another one I like:
"This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It's what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve." - Guess who. :D

I'd be in favor of removing those posts (including my own).

Rick

How bout this to just close the thread all toegether?

http://www.luclin.org/files/jamond/Retarded.jpg

quality stuff!



no, dont close the thread! but do try and at least have a quote in any post on it!
at least mr. alvarez and i managed to attatch a suitable quote to each bite we had at eachother...

some people arent bothering, its been an interesting thread, and everything has been relevant, if any posts should be removed, it should only be the ones sans quote.

"One of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them: It is a well known fact, that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. Anyone who is capable of getting themselves into a position of power should on no account be allowed to do the job. Another problem with governing people is people."

--douglas adams

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"We used to think that a hundred million monkeys at a hundred million keyboards eventually could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."

"The Mothership"

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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein

For some reason I was reminded of that quote in a dream last night.

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"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you murder the hater, but you do not murder hate...Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

"Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction...The chain reaction of evil -- hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars -- must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation."

- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)

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Worth contemplating...
 

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"The only people who see the whole picture
are the ones who step outside the frame."

– Salman Rushdie

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"Bank failures are caused by depositors who don't deposit enough money to cover losses due to mismanagement."

"The future will be better tomorrow."

"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."

"I deserve respect for the things I did not do."

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

"We expect them [Salvadoran officials] to work toward the elimination of human rights."

"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

"If we do not succeed, then we run the risk of failure."

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."

"Votes are like trees, if you are trying to build a forest. If you have more trees than you have forests, then at that point the pollsters will probably say you will win."

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Vice President, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'"

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have tremendous impact on history."

"It's wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago."

"This isn't a man who is leaving with his head between his legs."

"Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists."

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy -- but that could change."

"This President is going to lead us out of this recovery."

"In my opinion, America is the greatest planet
on the face of the Earth."

– James Danforth Quayle, 44th Vice President of the US of A

No
Joke

This man
could be our
next President

- Time Magazine cover April 23, 1990

Why do I feel like he is? :eek:

"Mmmm, unexplained bacon..."

-- Homer J. Simpson

"Making it up? Why should i want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."

--Marving the Robot, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams.

No joke? I think it’s hilarious!
But then again, Richard Milhous once referred to Spiros Anagnostopoulos (better known as Spiro Agnew) as his "best insurance not only against impeachment but also assassination".

...unfortunately, as we all know, Milhous’ "insurance" expired when Spiro was forced to resigned and later was convicted for tax evasion.


Whatever his other lackings, Spiros Anagnostopoulos was an eloquent speaker in his own right, no small thanks to his brilliant speechwriter William Safire. Here is a modest sampling:


"A spirit of national masochism prevails, encouraged by an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals."

"An intellectual is a man who doesn't know how to park a bike."

"Ultraliberalism today translates into a whimpering isolationism in foreign policy, a mulish obstructionism in domestic policy, and a pusillanimous pussyfooting on the critical issue of law and order."

"In the United States today, we have more than our share of nattering nabobs of negativism."

"Yippies, Hippies, Yahoos, Black Panthers, lions and tigers alike - I would swap the whole damn zoo for the kind of young Americans I saw in Vietnam."

"The American people should be made aware of the trend toward monopolization of the great public information vehicles and the concentration of more and more power over public opinion in fewer and fewer hands." (Yep, double-checked it, Mr Murdoch. Spiro did say that.)

"Some newspapers are fit only to line the bottom of bird cages."

"I have often been accused of putting my foot in my mouth, but I will never put my hand in your pockets."

"I apologize for lying to you. I promise I won't deceive you except in matters of this sort."

– Spiros Anagnostopoulos, 39th Vice President of the US of A
(with the good help of speechwriter William Safire)


PS. Um, are we allowed to quote presidents, too?

Who knew he was a prophet?

Yeah, and almost a Shakespeare! I must confess I was positively astonished when I checked out some of Spiro’s quotes. I mean, those are some of the most coherent things that I have heard high-profile politicians say in a long time. :cool:

In my opinion one of the most articulate politicians of the 20th century was Winston Churchill, the master of short expressions:

“There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.”

“A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.”

“We are stripped bare by the curse of plenty.”

“The power of man has grown in every sphere, except over himself.”

“The empires of the future are empires of the mind.”

“We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us.”

“This report, by its very length, defends itself against the risk of being read.”

“I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me.”

Winston was also master of the perfect retort:

"Mr. Churchill, you're drunk!"
“Yes, I am; and you are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober”.

"Mr. Churchill, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea!"
"And if you were my wife, I would drink it!"

“Mr. Attlee is a very modest man. Indeed, he has a lot to be modest about.”

Also worth noting:

“My wife and I tried to breakfast together, but we had to stop or our marriage would have been wrecked.”

“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

"Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives."

Calvin Coolidge, our thirtieth president, was a rare politician who didn't talk much. My grandfather used to tell us of this quote that I found in wikipedia, so I believe it happened:

It is said that a White House dinner guest once made a bet with her friends that she could get the president to say at least three words during the course of the meal. Upon telling Coolidge of her wager, he replied simply with the words "You lose."