I have never once seen the behavior you describe.

It's probably a poorly coded message style that you are using. Try a different one.

According to thinksecret.com, Mac OS X 10.4.3 will be some 98 mbs in size and is going to fix 500 flaws and is supposed to add tabbed chatting in iChat.

Yup. Even though that's the combo updater size, it's still going to have a lot of fixes.

MICRO$OFT IS A MANIFESTATION OF YOUR UNCONSCIOUS MIND.

Shhhhh...don't let facts interfere with perfectly good MS-bashing...

You think I don't know that, CAlvarez? I had Konfabulator when I used Panther.

And yes, we may be doing a bit of Microsoft, bashing, but I think that it is justified. Now I'm not saying they are pure evil, but they do rip people off. They sit around and watch other peoples ideas flourish and then Bill comes in and says " I want something that looks and does the same thing, but think of a new name so we don't get in trouble. And MS is getting lazy. There is a two letter difference between widgets and gadgets. Come on people! At least think of a new name for it.

Guys... Becaurefull... You can bash companies and their decisions or products, but bashing one another is not much fun. That should remai in private messages between people just for politeness.

I edited out all my people bashing!

While I don't agree that Microsoft is doing things the right way, our copyright laws are very strict...and Microsoft knows how to dance around them.

This is similar to how domestic car companies all started to put out Honda look alikes. In turn, all the Japanese trucks are now bulking up to look like American trucks. MS copying the Apple UI is not much different. I don't care for it, but we're powerless to do anything about it.

Most everyone here has already drank the Apple Kool-Aid, so you're kind of preaching to the choir...and BTW, Apple screwed over the Arlo Rose (Konfabulator) in the same very-legal way MS screws Apple.

Your right.. lest not forget that widgets are not a new Apple invention ! The've been around for a while !

Yeah, since system 8, when they were called Desktop Ornaments.

Konfabulator was just a more graphical version of them.

That takes all the fun out of it.

http://www.cbr1100xx.org/temp/funny/fish_tiny_line.jpg

To launch again the MS bashing spree... :D
Microsoft has announced that the next version of Outlook Express due with Windows Vista is chaging name to.... Windows Mail ! Yes we have it now... MS is not even innovative when it comes to naming their products ! :D
This is realy a shamefull thing !

OMG! Windows Mail...who wants to bet that this product will also receive the merry-go-round of MS monikers?

My crystal ball says in 6-months it will be renamed to Microsoft Mail, because Windows is too narrow a scope for the enterprise level consumer. Next it will be changed to MSN Mail because "Microsoft" has a negative conotation according to the sample group's responses on the scantron. After that...aww forget it. Mail.app was confusing anyway. I hate having to say "dot app" for Apple's program which is officially called Mail, not Apple Mail, or iMail.

I'm gonna become a gardener and start accepting only hand written letters.

what ever next?

"wtunes" !

"myphoto"?!

Seriously though........ do you think Steve and Bill have a bit of a secret deal????

Do you think Steve lets Bill get away with ripping off EVERYTHING that Apple innovates in return for them:
not bothering to release music players... ?
or not releasing the next version of windoze until 2007!!.....?
or just agreeing to produce inferior products in general!!?

That would mean a conspiracy that makes Stev look bad... Since when does Steve do anything to look bad ? He always wants to be the hotshot with the newest coolest thing in hand ! (this is getting close to the thread about the iPod Nano scam is it not ? :D )
Unless the conspiracy states "Steve gets all the cool gadgets out" "Bill can get all the moeny from re-marketing those" lol

yeh its probiably that..... the deal is Steve's team does the brainwork and looks cool and Bill gets to copy it 2 years later!


Seriously though....... if Steve goes MAD when an apple rumor site second guesses that they are gonna speed bump the mac mini by 200mhz, he must turn into the incredible hulk everytime he sees Micro$hit have stolen Apples work for the ten squilliant time!

Hear Bloody Hear...

It doesn't matter if MS copies Apple. Sure, they made billions off of Apple's ideas, but Apple has style. Apple is cooler than M$. All M$ cares about is making as much money as possible, so it they don't care if they turn out crappy products. Apple on the other hand is in the game to make the tech world a better place. They care about their customers.

Apple is just there to make money in the end as well don't forget. Look at iTools (as was) and .Mac for a prime example.

They had a (moderatly) brilliant free service and then started charging for it. Yes they gave away free software as part of the deal, (and we're supposed to have gotten free widgets...), but they could have left it free and not given the software away.

They wanted to make money out of a service that has been mostly ruined by charging for it.