What is your fav type of music?
 

I thought of this after reading the jokes one. This might give us an idea of the cultural diversities on this website.

You should name your fav genre. But if you like, why not name some other stuff? ( Band, song, artist, etc.)

I'll go first:

My favorite genre is classical.

Fav. composer ( in my opinion, the best ) is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Fav. work by him is Mass in C, K.427 'Great Mass'

Cool topic

Genre: Psychedelic Rock

These are rather mainstream, but still two of my favorites:

Artist: Pink Floyd
Song: Interstellar Overdrive

Artist: Jimi Hendrix
Song: 1983...(A Merman I Should Turn To Be)

A great, rather unknown (to virginians at least) psychedelic band is Ozric Tentacles. If you are into Space Rock then Ozric will be right up your alley.

I like ABRaD. That's Anything But Rap and Disco. :eek:
When my nephew (he loves Rap) talks like he's from the ghetto, it makes me feel like this country is doomed. I hope it's just my age and I hope he outgrows it. :rolleyes:

My of my fav. rap sayings, Im sure you have all heard it: You can't spell CRAP without RAP. :)

I have a wide musical palatte. I think it comes partially from being a musician.... but anyway, I listen to: Alternative, Goth, Electronica, Jazz, Blues, Classical, Contry, and just about anything else with a groove I can dig.

Right now I'm listening to Punk45 radio (via iTunes)... if that tells you anything.

Jesus People music of the 70s (Love Song, Road Home, Gentle Faith etc.)
Christian Worship Music (Parachute Band, Micheal W. Smith etc)
Christian Jazz (Seawind, Koinonia Band)
Messianic (Israel's Hope, Marty Goetz)
Classical Opera (Andrea Bocelli)
Classical (Requiem Mass, KV 622, any Adagio for Oboe, Air on G String)
Soundtracks (The Passion, Band of Brothers, Dune, Schindler's List, Amadeus)
Comedy (PDQ Bach, Early Lake Wobegon, Early Bill Cosby, Monty Python)
Instrumental Rock (Satriani, Gary Hoey, Robin Crow, Steve Vai)
Rock Classic (The Who, Yes, Led Zeppelin)
New Wave (Gary Numan, Missing Persons, Talking Heads,)
Country (Vince Gill, LeeAnn Rimes, The Judds, Ricky Skaggs)
Celtic (Enya, Loreena McKennett, Maire Brennan)

...and just about anything with Danny Elfman's name on it. ;)

When you say Requiem Mass KV.622, do you mean Mozart's Requiem Mass?

If that is what you are talking about then I am obligated by my love his music to inform you that the Requiem Mass is KV.626, not KV.622.

KV.622 is Mozart's famous Clarinet Concerto in A.

I am not saying you don't know your music, it was probably just an honest mistake. :o :o

And I love how they make Fun of P.D.Q. Bach's music. I'm really happy that they have those albums on the Music Store.

Keep 'em comin guys!

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anything thats good... my top 5 played tunes in itunes are:

Ian Brown - keep what ya got
Zero7 - Witness
Beck - Girl
Boards of Canada - roygbiv
Roni Size - No More

HA HA..what an ass

I like all types of music, becuase music crosses barriers setup by narrow minded people who judge others by the way the talk. It's not rap music that's doomed this country. You can blame TV for that...CMT included

Wrongo. T.V. has not doomed this country. Although I do believe that if everybody in the World didn't have cable we would be better off.

What has doomed this country is retarded Pop-culture, especially, MTV. I do not use the word "hate" lightly because it is strong, but that is one thing I hate.

MTV and Pop-culture go hand-in-hand. There is no denying it. MTV has poisioned the minds of young people today into thinking that stupidity, among other things, is cool.

BTW, rap is not even music, not in my book, anyway. Almost ALL of rap is done on a computer with some kind of synthesizer.

Now, if you look closely, you will notice that almost all rap does not involve musical notes as does almost every other genre of music, hence it is not music.

And don't tell me what the definition of Music is. I already know. I am speaking in terms of what the world today defines music as, not the Oxford Dictionary.

The only narrow minded people I see in this room and in the world are those who are to poisioned and programmed by MTV and Pop-culture to see the line beween rap and music.

Almost all teens today can be broken up into two groups:

1. Those who like rock, punk, emo, alternative, and anything that involves notes. I can listen to and enjoy these types of music, although the emo and punk does push my limits.

2. Those who like rap. Can't stand 'em.

Guys at my school automatically dismiss classical music as stupid. But they are basing there decsitions on what Pop-culture has told them about classical. I'll bet half of them have never even listened to classical. Sure, they most likely have heard it, but they have never "listened" to it in a manner in which they can comprehend the meaning of it or the beauty of it. Fortunatley, I broke away from my friends musical interests, strangely about the same time I decided to get a Mac.

T.V. is not evil. TV can be used for educational purposes. Nova is a good example of this. I watch Nova to learn. I supose it really comes down to how parents regulate their childrens intake of Pop-culture and the Media.

When cwtnospam said ( or implied ) that he doesn't like when his nephew talk ghetto, where do you think he gets that from? Pop-culture and Rap and the Media.

Want to learn more about how MTV, Rap, and Pop-culture are ruining children?

Direct your Television to the following channels:

BET, MTV, VH1. Watch 20 minutes of any of them.

Theres your answer.

Elvis, you sounded like you were boasting about how you like all types of music. You are contradicting your own post. By calling cwtnospam an ass, you fail victim to the barriers you spoke of that our set by narrow minded people who judge others by the way they talk. Sounds to me like you are judging cwtnospam because he of the way he talks or by what he says.

I like GOOD music!
 

Ah, well, I like good music. Now I know that sounds like a silly, non-descript answer, but it’s the most honest one I can give. :cool:

Classical & Early Music: Gregorian chants (!!!), Hildegard von Bingen, John Downland (there is no better melancholy music), Palestrina, JS Bach (!!), Händel, Haydn, Scarlatti, Hindemith, Erik Satie, Shostakovich (esp. the Preludes and Fugues), Arvo Pärt, Steve Reich, Lou Harrison (listen to Seven Pastorales and his California Symphony), Philip Glass (while watching the films Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi)

Rock & Popular: Jimi Hendrix, Peter Gabriel (he’s done a world of good!), Pink Floyd, Van Morrison, Wilco, Suzanne Vega, Joni Mitchell, The Eagles (before Hotel California), Leonard Cohen (I’m unsuccessfully trying to convince people that he was the first Rap artist :D), Carlos Santana, David Bowie, Elliott Smith, AIR, Eric Clapton, Metallica (Black Album – surpized myself; it’s good!), Lou Reed, Norah Jones, Rammstein, U2, Jaco Pastorius

Jazz etc: Keith Jarrett, Jan Garbarek, Eberhard Weber, Art Tatum (solo), Miles Davis, L. Shankar (plays double electric violin), Anouar Brahem, Egberto Gismonti, Ry Cooder, Radka Toneff (check her out!), Brad Mehldau, David Darling, Pat Metheny, Nana Vasconcelos, Tomasz Stanko (Soul of Things), and almost everything released on ECM!

Vocal & World: Lakshmi Shankar (a sublime singer!), Mari Boine, Billie Holiday, Sinead O’Connor (especially à capella), Fairouz (at her best), Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (check out Mustt Mustt and Shahen-Shah), Hilliard Ensemble, Ali Farka Toure, Salif Keita, Alan Stivell, Johnny Cash (esp. Unearthed / American), Eva Cassidy, Israel Kamakawiwo’ole (one song: Somewhere Over the Rainbow), Marvin Gaye, Hariprasad Chaurasia, Joe Zawinul, Meredith Monk, Oum Kalthoum, Oregon, Robert Johnson (blues), Youssou N’Dour, gamelan music, really authentic Irish music, shakuhachi flute, African vocal music…

Other: Brian Eno, Tangerine Dream, Laurie Anderson, bluegrass, zydeco

Norwegian: Edvard Grieg, Fartein Valen, Jan Garbarek, Mari Boine, Sondre Lerche, Röyksopp, Kings of Convenience, Ketil Björnstad, Kurt Nilsen (yeah, I know he won the Idol, but he can sing), Lene Marlin, Nils Petter Molvaer, Spetakkel, A-ha (small doses), Terje Rypdal,

Individual performers such as: Pablo Casals, Kim Kashkashian, Jordi Savall, Glenn Gould, Alicia De Larrocha, Leif Ove Andsnes

Non-musical: Robin Williams (the stand-up comedian), Tom Lehrer (well, sort of musical), George Carlin (a most articulate comedian), Noam Chomsky (a most articulate linguist and social critic – when he doesn’t misstep),

Sorry, but that’s all I could think of off the top of my head. :D :D :D


Best regards,
ArcticStones

Yes, television is a vast wasteland, but that doesn't mean that rap is not.

Judging people by the way they talk is perfectly logical, normal and to be expected. I'm not talking about an accent or a lisp here. You can reasonably expect more from a person that can put complete sentences together to form paragraphs than one who cannot.

If you want to defend rap, you need to do a much better job of articulating your point of view. Name-calling is self-defeating.

yes, I am narrow-minded like that. I *hate* people who cast an entire sect of society aside because they happen to like a music genre which is still in it's infancy. take Jazz and rock as an example. what do they both have in common with rap?

they were all labeled as "noise" and "not music" when they first came out. Parker, Basie, Hendrix are all considered masters now. I dont particularly care for modern rap...but that's not to say I dislike someone because they speak different from me. Perhaps it's because I come from a very diverse area where physicists are just as likely to nod their head to Chingy, as a punk club kid is to listen to Rakmananov. And yes, I still think you're both asses.

For those that still hate rap and have read this far...try out:

Sage Francis - Personal Journals
N*E*R*D - Fly or Die
The Roots - The Tipping Point
Peanut Butter Wolf
NWA
Madlib


*mods: don't go crazy please, there's far worse things I could have said.

The first Rapper?
 

Leonard Cohen -- I’m unsuccessfully trying to convince people that he was the first Rap artist. Rather articulate. :D

And in my opinion Tupac did a damn (darned?) good job of expressing himself. So does Eminem -- but honestly, a lot of what he writes (vitriolic personal attacks on in-laws and others not in a position to defend themselves) is not worth expressing.

Anyways, that’s my 50 cents.

;)


PS. Fat Elvis, I’m hardly deep into Rap, but try to keep an open mind to that which I am exposed. So at first opportunity I will check out your recommendations. Why don’t you check out some of mine?

I'm 40 years old and like rap, but I don't talk like I was born in the ghetto. Where's that put me?

I'll listen to most anything beside country and opera (same thing really). Classical is boring and sleep-inducing, but at least it's not offensive like country. I liked classical and some country when I was a kid, but grew out of it. Now I tend toward electronic, techno, alternative, dance, pop, and jazz. I also enjoy quite a bit of rap, hip-hop, and metal.

Culture and cultural arrogance
 

Generally I do not listen to Rap (and find a fair bit of it abrasive), but I think it is pretty drastic -- and downright arrogant -- to write off a whole culture. So I understand FatElvis’ reaction. That said, I don’t think it’s unlikely that CtwNoSpam’s nephew will outgrow his current tastes. Happens to the best of us. ;)

But pantherman, you do have a point. I have only on few occasions stumbled on MTV, and I would rather not watch Rap; there’s too much narcissistic posing for my taste. Makes me feel like I’m watching clones of Ms Spears or Mr Iglesias – with a different tribal twist.

Country? Can’t stand most of it, especially not all the twangy fluff that Johnny Cash derisively referred to as “hat tricks”. But I’ll listen to the last set of albums he did before he died, again and again. And there are others who have made music with integrity.
(By the way: Do you know what happens if you play country music backwards? )

Opera? Carlos, go see the fantastic French movie thriller "Diva". That was the first time I heard opera that I could stomach. Like wine and much else, it’s an acquired taste.

Classical? I think there is a real problem with training and attitude. Too many musicians who fail to play as though their lives depended on it; some sound as pedestrian and indifferent as if they might be doing accounts in an Excel spreadsheet. Music demands intensity! Bach, Beethoven & brethren were great improvisers. Most classical musicians today couldn’t improvise if you put a gun to their heads.

I love the finest of the lot. Classical music performed by mediocre musicians is synonymous with Muzak and sounds worse than my dentist’s drill -- and certainly far worse that good Rap!

That is why I like good music, not whole genres.

Cheers!

Oh yeah, that reminded me. About the above statement, I have a question:

SO?!?

Most classical music is made on wood things with some kind of strings. The aborigenes of Australia--get this--blow through sticks. How stupid is that? And most of my birth country's music is made by banging on sheets of leather stretched over wooden barrels. Who can call that music?

They're just tools. Your real intention for this thread--to show your superiority by your taste in music--is obvious now. You used the word "diversity" in your post, but then went on to bash anything to do with diversity.

I need to edit some of the things I said. I still do not, and probably will never like rap music. I just can't get into what they talk about.

As far as people who listen to rap, there I may have been a tinsy bit arrogant. I have never had a very good experience with rap. Old habits die hard, right? I guess in this case my old prejustices die hard. Anyone whom I have ever come across that listens to rap often speak like the people talking in rap. Thats why I must leave when people talk to me in slang like they are from the ghetto. Its like verbal and auditory anthrax for my ears.

Now I know I may have been wrong. I never intended to offend you, CAlvarez. You are probably very articulated.

:eek: That really hurt. That was below the belt for me. :( :mad:

:eek: Most people I meet that say classical is sleepy and boring have probably never listen to an intense piece of classical.

To each his own, I guess! :)

Thanks for being kind about that mistake, CAlvarez, unlike a certain someone who shall remain nameless. ( I think you know who) ;) ;)

Nope, the Clarinet Concerto was what I meant (hence the comma), but the name was too long to write out. I mentioned Requiem by name because I like almost ALL the compositions. I'm no genius, but I know what I was talking about there and just was not clear.

Note: I used to think Classical was boring until I saw Amadeus in the theater. The scene where Salieri describes the piece he was reading as well as putting together the Requiem mass at the end caused me to really study it. Hearing the individual parts and how various instruments work together to produce a particular sound and emotion is incredible. Because of our Classical roots, we have movie soundtracks that are phenominal. Even Star Wars is based largely on Holtz "The Planets".

As for Country, not a big fan, but some songs have some great root sounds such as bluegrass and gospel. The soundtrack from Cold Mountain shows other roots as well. It's all good. And yes, I know what happens when you play Country backwards.

I don't want to get into an arguement about Rap-- if it speaks to a generation, so be it. Just don't blast it so loud that the windows of my house shake when you drive by and keep the lyrics so that it speaks constructively rather than sink a culture into the sewer.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not a genius, so I didn't catch the comma.

Before I saw the movie Amadeus, I had heard alot about it. I had already deeply submerged myself in classical music, but I didn't know that much about it. Mozart is my favourite composer, hands down. Naturally I wanted to learn more about him, so i finally rented it.

Its funny you should mention the scene where Saliari is looking at the music and hearing it. For a while, I was looking for one of the pieces that was played. Yesterday I downloaded it from the iTunes Music Store.

The movie Amadeus, however historically inacurate, is a great movie, worthy of the awards it has earned.

To those who dislike Rap: Do you feel the same way about Hip-Hop?
Download some Talib Kweli and tell me if you think it's ear poison.

Just because something is said in a different format that you are used to (a Rap as opposed to Poetry), doesn't mean that it is inferior in anyway. In my opinion, great Hip-Hop is quite the opposite, superior to Poetry. It is beautiful poetry spoken with an emotional cadence.

I personally dislike most "commercial" Rap for many of the same reasons that I dislike most of today's pop music. It lacks emotion and feels uninspired at best. I do, however, love Hip-Hop and its unique form of expression.

*Edited out a childish argument*

I like this thread a lot to pick up music I might have missed and posts like Arctic's playlist are most interesting to me.

Although passionate opinions about music are understandable, it would probably do the thread a lot of good to avoid personal attacks.

Fruitful debate requires mutual respect even if you dislike your opponents opinions.

And the non-debatable parts which are just differences in personal taste would best be settled by agreeing to disagree.

Listening with the Inner Ear
 

In regards to Art, many people voice the cliché-filled opion: “I may not know anything about art, but I know what I like.” And so they write off as inferior or nonsensical trash all non-figurative art, for instance, and might be unable to see the intrinsic beauty of masterpieces created by artists from so-called primitive cultures. (I actually wept when I saw the cave paintings of France; how can any of us feel “superior” to those achievements!?)

One of the things I sorely regret was not taking a course in Music Appreciation.

At the university, I did a double major in Studio Art and Mathematics – but tasting many things along the way (like a kid overwhelmed in a candy shop of learning). Physics, applied kinesiology, history of photography, Chinese history, humanistic and transpersonal psychology, poetry and poetics, comparisons between the world views of native American tribes and the overculture, etc etc.

Every field of knowledge (and aesthetics) has its own particular language. In fact, the first few years of medical studies, law school or engineering are spent learning the language, so as to be able to deal with the knowledge at all!

Now, what does that tell me? A lot of the music that I now love, I couldn’t stand upon initial listening. I had to overcome initial shock, put preconceptions aside, and honestly try to hear its inner impulse. True listening is not done with the ear.

It’s given me immense joy that Music is so diverse, and until the day I die, I expect to be discovering artists and genres, countries and cultures that have their own fascinating means of expression.

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I am told that Man probably made Music before we created Language. Now that has fascinating implications…

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Sure, there are different tastes. But I am no relativist who claims that everything is just a matter of taste. There is such a thing as Quality – and it is recognised with our Inner Ear. (Hence there is not truly a need for specialised knowledge about the various arts and music, although that might help us to learn to truly listen or see.)

You would, for example, probably not find a single professional classical musician who would claim that Sibelius was a better composer than Bach. But many might tell you that they prefer to play the great Finnish composer on their hi-fi when they get home.

Billie Holiday’s singing is not a “style”; I can’t stand the imitators. Those more literate in Rap than I, might venture strong opions about Tupac compared to, say, 50 Cent. The Romanian pan-flute virtuoso Gheorghe Zamfir made wonderful stuff before he became just “a virtuoso”. Give me Carole King’s “Tapestry”, (some) Madonna or anything by Norah Jones, but I’ll pass on Britney Spears and Julio Iglesias. I confess a preference for Peter Gabriel over Dr Dre, but appreciate both. And you can have Elton John if you give me the collected works of Pink Floyd.

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Well, I am eagerly waiting for someone to pick up the thread, introducing me to great music that I have not yet heard.

:)

– ArcticStones

Thats funny.

I am taking Music Appreciation this year. :)

Do they cover Rap and HipHop? ;)

Agreed but there is no respect in the when in the statement "Those who like Rap, hate em". I happen to like Rap and pantherman hates me for no reason, where is the respect there. I don't think that mutual respect is attainable when someone hates blindly and prejudges before discovery. I will in future posts try to make a more articulate and less childish argument but a line was crossed and I think that something needed to be said about it. I am not looking to change peoples opinions about music, to each his own. Rather, I thought something needed to be said about the people he insulted for the sole fact that the like rap music.

To pantherman,
I do apologize for acting like an ass myself. I do, however, urge you to not have hatred for people who like a certain type of music.

I also think you should check out some quality Hip-Hop and perhaps you will see how beautiful a rap can be:

• BlackStar
• Common
• The Fugees
• Genus Pro.
• Jurassic 5
• Mos Def
• Pharoahe Monch
• The Roots
• Talib Kweli

ArcticStones:

Have you ever heard of Cachao (Cuban upright bass player)? If not, you should check him out.

I will definitely do so, and I’ll also check out Xlax and FatElvis’ suggestions for broadening my Rap and HipHop horizons. One of my best friends raves about Cuba, its people and music, after visiting the country twice – and falling in love. I myself know far too little about Cuban music, but have heard some fine collaborations that Ry Cooder did.

Glad to see the temperature has cooled down, as Voldenuit suggested.
:) Let’s get on with the music!

Pantherman, thanks for starting this thread! When it comes to classical music, I am curious – who are your favourite 20th and 21st century composers? Any recent classical works that have caught your ear?


Best regards,
– ArcticStones

I don't know about Cohen, but some say that Dylan was the first rapper, and I think Danny Kay beat him to it in the forties and fifties.

I agree about Eminem, but I think right now he represents Rap. As with any human endeavor, you can always find lots of exceptions to any rule, but Rap (his and others) is generally too misogynistic and it glorifies so called street life too much. I think that everyone should aspire to something higher. Punks like Tupac simply are not comparable to people like B.B. King and Duke Ellington in Jazz, Chuck Berry and Elvis Presley in Rock, or Johnny Cash and Patsy Kline in Country. In any case, that's all I have to say about Rap unless somebody can come up with a better reason to listen to it. Keeping an open mind is one thing, but experience is the basis for judgment, and I've experienced much more of it than I care to remember.

Those who don't like Country often don't realize that much of Dylan's work is considered to be Country, and so is that of the Eagles. Who doesn't like Hotel California or Lyin' Eyes? Country songs if ever there was one. I don't point these out as simple exceptions. The point is that there are lots of songs that many people think are Rock, but are actually Country.

Nu-mark. Cut Chemist. Soup. Chali 2na. Akil. Marc 7. The best.

HAHA...what happened to the internet? I call someone an ass and people get all huffy. Okay, Okay...If pantherman can admit that rap is not a plague on society, I can easily admit he's not an ass. nor is anyone else on this board.

*grouphug*

anywho....the other day on NPR I heard a segment about how many classical songs are being re-wrote into shorter versions. They said today's society can't tolerate a 13-minute song. So much for Zepplin. Check my signature. It's for a band which some might still consider noise, Godspeed You Black Emperor. They have sort of evolved into the Silver Mt. Zion Trio, but put out similar music. I recommend them highly.

Oh yeah, ArcticStones...."Anyways, that’s my 50 cents." Not sure if you put that pun in on purpose, but 50-Cent is one of today's more popular rappers :D Not a good one, just popular ;)

nice...I saw the Invisible Scratch Pickles final show at the Fillmore. Cut Chemist and DJ Shadow did a set together. damn, that was awesome.

P.S. Invisible Scratch Pickles = DJ QBert, Magic Mike, Short Cut. Now defunct, but the most powerful DJ trio of their time.

QBert is awesome.

I've met J-5 2x. Once after a show in Chapel Hill, and then again after a show in London. Really nice dudes. Love the old school hip-hop. Hate the dirty south. it's all lame hooks and high-hats to cover people's lack of lyrics and skills.

Seems like much of America is content to listen to the same old 60's and 70's standards, still hear a lot of classic rock coming out of people's stereos. That stuff really is classic, but geez, there's so much to discover. We are as far away from the 1960's as the 1960's were from the 1920's.

I like anything except most rap and most country. I have tons of basic "3-chord guitar bass and drums" rock but since it hasn't really changed much since the 60s I don't listen to it much anymore. I dislike most disco but I love good electronic music, some of which can approach classical in its complexity yet you can move your butt to it (Meat Beat Manifesto, old Orbital).

Firstly, Your Welcome!

Secondly, No. I haven't heard any of the newer composers works. I really like Gershwin, and John Williams is pretty good. The majority of my iTunes library is of the old guys, particularly Mozart. The Wolfgang Amadeus Mozrt smart playlist is 1.41 GBs in size, and my iTunes library is only 2.34 GBs in size. Thats saying something. If you have any modern composers to suggest, I would love to hear them. :)

Now I would like to publicly apologize to those that I have offended in this post. The post was never intended for that. I don't hate Rap. Hate is such an ugly word. I prefer classical over rap, that is all. Now I hope we can but the past behind us and continue in this free exchange of cultural ideas, opinions, and understanding!

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Actually, my band instructor, also the teacher of the course, said it is going to really be Music History, ranging all the way from the Renaissance to modern times.

I know what you are all thinking. Why isn't it called Music History, then?

Good question. :)




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Then give me a copy of an orchestral version of Franz Liszt's "St. Francis' Sermon for the Birds". There's only 1 orchestral version I've ever heard and the CD is long out of print. Everything else is on piano..

??? I must have missed something... :confused: :o

You prefer Classical. I'm hoping you have an extensive library. Apparently not.

But I have to try.. Eventually I'll find it.

I'm guessing you're young.

Good music is good music, whatever the era. More doesn't mean better any more than new does, and new stuff will always seem to outnumber the old since the bad songs haven't been filtered out by time.

hmmm...OK, if I could choose one band to see...dead, defunct, or alive and kicking...PORTISHEAD!!!!! They did a live concert with a half orchestra in New York a while back. I have the VHS (eek!) and CD, but can only try to imagine the sound live.

I think my second choice would be Pink Floyd@Wembly Stadium. Shine On with that big ass light on top of the stage :D

and a very close 3rd, Jimmy Hendrix at Monterey Jazz Festival

Arctic Stones-

For a good introductory album of beautiful Cuban Jazz I suggest downloading the Soundtrack (I think, a friend told me this after I showed him the album) called Buena Vista Social Club. It is incredible, I'm not very good with words so I'll just let you guys listen and tell me what you think.

I suppose "good music" is really user defined. I'd take Brandenburg Concerto No.1 over The Candy Shop ( 50 cent ) anyday. But for some I know its the other way around.

ah.. soulless misogynistic music. Brought to you by the G-Unit.

You guess I'm young? That's a compliment. Thanks.

My point is more of an observation that the music of the 1960's and 1970's, which I grew up with, was supposed to be fresh and revolutionary, liberating and rebellious, but after four decades it ironically has become "the old standards" that the people of the 1960's were trying to get away from. I was trying to create the image of a person in the 1960's listening to 1920's music. If we encountered one, we would probably say "You're listening to music from 40 years ago. Don't you see what's happening all around you now?" My view on music was probably influenced by my punk/New Wave friends in the 1980's, for whom Job One was to overturn "corporate rock."

So if I seem young, it's probably because I'm not content with thinking that I want to spend all day listening to music from decades ago. I'm still curious, still want to explore. Yes, my collection still includes music like Supertramp, Rush, and Crosby Stills Nash & Young, plus Beethoven and Bach, on vinyl, and they are still excellent. Heck, I even want to pick up some Chopin piano music soon. But not enough people are listening to Matthew Herbert, Baby Mammoth, Komeda, the Dining Rooms, Lamb...and they deserve my attention just as much.

Put another way, the 1960's were driven by the new electric guitar. I always want to know, who is doing something interesting with the incredible palette of sounds and effects provided by today's instruments and tools, many on the Mac?

There's no other way this thread could have gone. "Good music" will always be like "good religion." What's good is what supports your particular world view, depending on when and where in the world you grew up, who you hang out with, and how you were educated.

Conference of the Birds
 

Well, I’ve gote "Conference of the Birds" by the Dave Holland Quartet. But that’s a far cry from Liszt. :rolleyes:

ArcticStones, Mind if I chime in on this one? Mine have to do with the area of soundtracks because that is where the money is as was the church during the 18th century.

Mike Kamen (Band of Brothers Soundtrack)
Danny Elfman
John Williams
James Horner
John Debney

Rapping (and censoring) a 14th century author
 

Schneb, your latter point is the crux of my objection to much of the Rap of Marshall Mathers – although I have to admit that Eminiem is a huge musical talent.

You may be interested to know that Canadian Baba Brinkman recently put some of the works of the classical 14th century author Geoffrey Chaucer to HipHop. In fact he is touring English schools with this music. See BBC article.

A particularly hilarious point is that Baba felt compelled to tone down Chaucer, so as not to offend the sensibility of modern youth. That’s brilliant! A 14th century author being censored in order to make it palatable to a 21st century audience! :D


Best regards,
ArcticStones

I think this use of Rap is brilliant--especially as an education tool. However, I would not use the word censorship, but sanitization. Basically, it's cleaning it up a little for the kids, which I think is very responsible art. Bravo and kudos to him.

However, this is not new. The Jews for years have forbidden their children to read the Song of Solomon until they become adults. When you understand the poetic content of his writing, you can see how explicit the text really is.

The ecstacy of Union…
 

A fascinating comparison! Is it true that the Song of Solomon follows a long tradition where religious experience and longing for union with God is expressed in sexual terms? And that the ecstacy of such union is expressed as the climax and bliss of lovers? I believe you find the same in some Sufi poetry, for instance.

At least that is my own reading of these wonderfully ecstatic texts! In other words poetic expressions of love/longing and fulfillment on several parallel levels …


With best regards,
ArcticStones

A classic redone! :-)
 

I heard this the other day on Internet radio and can't get it out of my head. A country/bluegrass version of "I want you to want me."

http://www.running-time.com/wgwg.htm

That's a great course to take. Learning to appreciate different kinds of music is a very good thing. If you can get out and listen to some live music as the course goes along that's even better. I have heard Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, and Ray Charles live and they made a big impression on me.

It was interesting to watch that happen! The Ramones came along and poked fun at how serious the scene was getting. Then the Talking Heads came along and suddenly the 60's style sounded dated. Around that time, maybe a little later, there was a band made up of veterans of the San Francisco 60's music scene. You could say that they waved the flag of surrender by naming themselves "The Dinosaurs."

That is very astute observation. Yes, there is a parrallel between Song of Solomon and God/Jewish nation as well as Christ/Church. But mostly, it's a great guide to a very pleasurable marriage. I have a friend who commissioned an illustrator to draw the woman as literally described in Song of Solomon. It was grotesque with goats as hair, palm tree body, doves for eyes, teeth of bald sheep, two fawns for breasts etc. It's a great picture!

Song of Solomon
 

So, the Torah/Bible has its own "Kama Sutra"? It is very interesting that the Holy Book(s) place such important emphasis on ecstacy and carnal pleasures.

Perhaps the Song of Solomon should be the focus of more sermons, at least for adult audiences? Never have I heard a preacher touch on this book on a Sunday.

Well, not to dwell on the point, but a lot of sexually oriented Rap texts seem restrained and "colourless" in their language by comparison... I think many "modern", hip audiences would be surprised – how much more modern our spiritual ancestors were than is commonly believed. :)


Best regards,
ArcticStones

I have, because all my teachers preach through the Bible chapter by chapter. The best I have ever heard regarding Song of Solomon is by a teacher named David Hocking. Here is the outline of this great set of teaching...

http://tinyurl.com/7vhxb

Sorry to get WAY off the subject, but hey, the coats don't seem to mind. ;)

OK, before I post my list, I think that saying anything definite about music is very difficult. I change my taste in music frequently. But here is a list of some of the bands/artists that I seem to come back to again and again:

Rock: The Rolling Stones, Turbonegro, Hellacopters, Foo Fighters, Nirvana, Metallica, The Ramones

Pop: Morrissey, U2

Alternative: Beck, Portishead, Massive Attack, Radiohead, Blur, Bjørk

Rap: Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Jay Z

Jazz: Charlie Parker (The Bird), Dexter Gordon, Miles Davis

Classical: Mozart, Vivaldi (the four seasons), Grieg ...


-seagull