Windows Vista?
 

What does everyone think about Windows Vista? I am dieing to know what it is going to be like, merely from a competitive point of view. What do you guys think it will be like?

If you want some really nasty comments, go over to cnet.com and look for the Windows Vista story. People are having a huge debate about it. There is a lot of Mac bashing and Mac OS X bashing, so if you don't want to look at that, don't go.

Then again, we Mac users are hardcore enough to take any stupid insult from a Microsoft drone and point out how much they are missing the facts. :)

Read about Windows Longhorn. Vista is just the recently-announced release name for the Longhorn development.

I think if they do cover it up with a nice GUI, its still going to be a extremely vulnerable operatings system, that crashes and has tons of bugs. So basically its windows xp with a new GUI.

My thoughts exactly.

I am expecting some new graphics, but thats really it. What could it possibly have that Leopard won't? And what could it have that Tiger doesn't?

My favorite acronym for Vista:

Viruses.
Infections.
Spyware.
Trojans.
Adware.

:D

Edit: Hmmm. Is it a reverse acronym? A Haiku?

Dude, I just wanna say that as of this moment, you are the smartest person in these forums for pointing that out! Man, Microsoft sure is giving us a CLEAR veiw of vista.

A Haiku is governed by quite a couple of rules, here's one:

Windows Vista crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.


(pulled off the net, originally for NT instead of vista, don't remember the origin)

There are lots of variations on that particular Haiku. It is so common that I just google "Computer Haiku" and got this:

A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone.

No keyboard present
Hit F1 to continue
Zen engineering?

The web site you seek
Cannot be located but
Countless more exist.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.

Aborted effort:
Close all that you have worked on.
You ask way too much.

Windows NT crashed.
I am the blue screen of death.
No one hears your screams.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.

Printer not ready.
Could be a fatal error.
Have a pen handy?

First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
So beautifully.

With searching comes loss
And the presence of absence:
"My novel" not found.

The Tao that is seen
Is not the true Tao, until
You bring fresh toner.

Stay the patient course.
Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.

A crash reduces
Your expensive computer
To a simple stone.

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes, and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.

You step in the stream,
But the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
But we never will.

This site uses frames
And yet your browser does not.
One of these will change.

Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
Howard Daughters

I can't take credit for it. It was one of the people they quoted in the article who said it. It is my favorite though, because it is clever and true!

Anyone notice the 'spotlight' effect on the 'new' logo: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/i...ista_v_Web.jpg? ;)

Its a shame Microsoft has to recycle Apple's ideas, only to regurgitate them as bad software and call it "The biggest thing since Windows 95"

I think we all remember what Windows 95 was like.....

More to the point....... how much of Mac OS 10.4/10.5 do you think Microsoft will try and rip off and call it their own?

I bet you they do a windoze version of dashboard and spotlight in Vista..

Well they will probably copy most of Tiger, especially spotlight, although I don't think it will be as fast or as good looking. Nothing they copy ever is. As for Dashboard, I can't see Bill getting to deeply into that. Microsoft drones would think it pointless. Only we can appreciate its convinience.

As for Leopard, they can only copy what Steve will preveiw, hopfully at the MacWorld Convention in January! What do you think Steve has up his sleave this time? ;)

For a full list of the exciting innovative features being cut from Vista, go http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5212077.html ;)

Longhorn promise: A whole new OS and file system, from the kernel up.

Vista reality: What Windows ME was to 98 (ME was a complete disaster and the most horrible OS ever released by MS).

I had high hopes for Longhorn until I started using the early betas. The look and feel is old and still not as ergonomic as OS X (what made me switch to begin with). But I thought at least it might be a good server OS where the GUI isn't relevant, and a great kernel/security/FS is important. The current Longhorn beta is not much better graphically, and all the great things have been removed. I honestly expect I will treat this as I did ME; warn everyone not to use it and keep running 2003 for servers.

As soon as Vista is released, im going over to the Compusa ( I only go there for Apple stuff :) ) and testing it out. Then Im going to laugh.

You wanna hear a funny story?

A while ago, me and my friend would always laugh at my other friend because he owned a Mac. ( Stupid, stupid me! ) I was a Windows 95 guy back then. When I went over my friends house, he had an iMac, one of the lifesaver ones, you know, the multi-colored ones. He was running OS 9.2. I loved it.

About 12 months ago, when I got my iBook, my friend Nick, who also used to swear by Windows got sad. He got sad because he noticed how awesome my iBook G4 was and how junky his Inspirion 1100 was. Now he wants a Mac bad, but can't afford one. Thats the power of the Mac OS. It changes people.

Has anyone ever picked up an Inspirion 1100? They're really heavy!

Once you go Mac, you never go back. :)

Here is a first look at Beta 1 if you haven't seen it.
 

Okay, I know he says its pre-Beta 1, but Microsoft assures him its the same thing. Look at the slide show, especially when IE7 crashes!

Looks like we have a lot to look forward to!

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1841067,00.asp ;)

Do you guys think IE7 will be able to search your favorites like Safari does?

I hope so, but I'm not counting on it.

On a different note, how much will I have to pay for a computer that will run Vista?

I don’t know. But you would have to pay me a fortune to run Vista on a computer.

:D

In that article I posted the guy said you won't be able to use files that weren't bought on a Vista system, and you won't be able to use hardware from companies that Microsoft doens't have a contract with.

What are they thinkin in Redmond!?!?

If that is true then I do not want to use Vista.

Around $225.

They were thinking they should be more like Apple? If Windows was restricted to authorized hardware, it certainly would be a lot more reliable.

So, I just dusted off my old linux box and upgraded it to suse 9.3 professional. Which can pretty much do everything that longhorn (vista) promises and is already out, while vista will be out next year. However, I will come out and say now vista will be plain easier to use. I like the KDE desktop, but vista's gui will be plain easier to use. A friend of mine just set up a media server in his house, and this friend of mine is a mac guy. His server is a PC running windows 2003 server with terminal services. He can ssh remote desktop into the server from any machine anywhere he wants to. Then at his house he and his roomate have a pair of laptops which they can control all the media from on his server using the wireless network. He has speakers all through his house and even outside and he can play any song he wants to with his laptop and it plays through his whole house. The set up is pretty impressive, and he plans on adding on a digital receiver (wireless) to his TV so he can play any movie he wants off his server. We were playing pool in his basement like a month ago and talking about computers (we both work as IT professionals but with different companies) and he told me even though microsoft makes some dumb choices and does idiotic things they are still a good OS to run. I haven't got much play time in win server 2003 but what I did get from playing around with it I did like.

here is the thing about microsoft, they release an OS and it sucks until the first wave of patches (that happens with everything though). I remember loading the Mac OS X beta (I still have the CD!!) on my ibook back in the day and thinking to myself that apple needed to overhaul it fast otherwise it would fail. Look at where it has gotten today, the OS is cool, and I like it.

However, microsoft does make a good OS. I don't get spyware, I don't get viruses, my windows box does not crash, because I know how to use it. Same thing with my mac. I will upgrade to it and run it when it comes out, since microsoft will probably just toss me a free copy (wish apple did that, I had to buy tiger for my ibook :( ). Its like I said, microsoft takes some technology that other OSes offered a year ago, and they make it really easy to use. I love my linux box, but I could probably never switch over to linux full time.