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G4essy 06-01-2005 12:21 PM

Safari user! Why? Because its simple... Although the idea of having "skins" for firefox and cool plugins would be cool for safari, its not enough for me to switch over, Firefox is a really powerful browser, but it has its quarks. The truth is, is that I have become acustomed with Safari and how it works, and I don't think i have the time to sit down and try to make my self use to a new browser especially now when Tiger has come out, and all of my time has gone into makeing workflows in automator, playing with spotlight and loveing the dashboard!

Esy

jeffo 06-01-2005 12:45 PM

I have several installed but i only use them for testing my own site to make sure it works ok in other browsers, I use Safari on my macs and firefox on my work PC.

hexmachine 06-01-2005 01:26 PM

I use Firefox mainly because I switched over from a Linux box where FF is basically the defacto browser. I got used to it, its settings and mainly FF's extensions. I don't care for skins much, I feel they kind of slow the browser down a bit.

The times I've used Safari I could see that it is really fast, but not so amazingly faster than FF that I'd switch from it. In other aspects, being a different browser than what I'm used to, it feels kind of uncomfortable for me.

miklb 06-01-2005 07:35 PM

While I'll agree with most of the reasons why I'd like to use Safari more (on the go spell check being tops), ever since I found a "brushed metal" theme for FF, (I hated the candy-flavored themes, like I was using a browser for a 4 year old) I have started using Firefox. I've really gotten into the extensions for FF, especially the web developer extension. To be able to outline block level elements, show ID and class details, not to mention other extensions like colorzilla and measure it, my browser now is much more than a browser. I still miss some of the speed of Safari, but for FF offers so much more. Not to mention, still in Panther, so I don't have the RSS option for Safari, I do with FF.
(One less app to deal with being open).

gandalfxviv 03-28-2008 11:41 AM

Firefox
 
I do like Safari because it's definitely integrated with OSX much better than Firefox is, but the reason I like Firefox is that you can literally type ANYTHING in the address bar and 999 times out of 1000 Firefox takes you directly to the page you're looking for. Sometimes it returns a google search page, but that's usually what I want in those cases anyway.

I would definitely switch to Safari if they ever implemented that one feature, but as of now if you type in something it doesn't like it opens up a useless page saying so. At least they finally added an option to search google right there on the error page, but why couldn't they just automatically search Google?

aehurst 03-28-2008 08:56 PM

Safari. Only one reason... you can increase and decrease font size with the mouse. If you wear bi-focals and sit back from the keyboard, that's a nice feature.

I think Firefox, however, is more secure and so I use it for banks and such. Also, Firefox has a better parental control ... can disallow "disreputable sites" which you cannot do on Safari with Tiger. So, the 11 year old is locked out of Safari, and gets Firefox only.

J Christopher 03-28-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AHunter3 (Post 210719)
Happy Shiira user here.

I used Shiira for a long time, starting long before v. 1.0. I've switched to Demeter, Which is based upon Shiira 1.x, but with bug fixes and more active development.

J Christopher 03-28-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CAlvarez (Post 211284)
Shiira seems to not save login info for any sites. Did I miss something, fail to turn on a feature? Or does it really just not do that? Makes it pretty useless if so.

I've had that feature turned off for a long time now, but I'm nearly positive I have used it in Shiira v.1.x, which is now being developed as Demeter.

It's an option in the preferences, anyway.

AHunter3 03-30-2008 12:46 PM

Mid-march update: I have switched to Demeter for about a month now. It has one disadvantage compared to Shiira: like Safari, it does not provide contextual menu on left-click-and-hold. For that reason alone I would have stuck with Shiira except that it turns out that, like Shiira, Demeter uses Safari's bookmarks. So I keep all my bookmarks in SAFARI, actually, and that makes it painless to switch back to Shiira if I don't have a mouse plugged into my PowerBook and have to rely on the single-button trackpad.

(For you folks who joined the platform in the Intel era, PowerBooks do not have a trackpad routine for intending right-click; we only have Control-click as an option)

Meanwhile, Demeter does one thing that Shiira (to my substantial irritation) does not: lets me select a batch of text on a web page and drag it out as a textClipping. And the latest version of Shiira just seems buggy. So Demeter it is.


Dark-horse news: iCab, of all the forgotten browsers (!), has somehow become viable again. Someone said they'd switched to webkit. At any rate, it's long-term inability to render more than the simplest of pages without screwing them up appears to have been fixed, and yet it has its speed like it used to have. Unfortunately iCab does NOT seem to have the option of sharing bookmarks with Safari et al. I could perhaps import them but now I'm spoiled to the idea that I should never have to.

chris_on_hints 03-30-2008 12:53 PM

Since this thread appears to be in use again, I will throw in my 2 cents worth:

I am using Camino at the moment on my iBook, and have been since version 1.0 (now at 1.5). Although the new Firefox sounds like it will be in use on my work PC, as it still doesnt use the keychain for password storage, it is unlikely to be useful on my Mac.

J Christopher 03-30-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHunter3 (Post 461261)
It has one disadvantage compared to Shiira: like Safari, it does not provide contextual menu on left-click-and-hold.

Demeter -> Preferences -> General -> Context menu: Display by holding button press on the Web page. (Check box.)

tommaso 03-30-2008 09:27 PM

Used to use Safari almost exclusively, until I had a pressing need for the ability to have one or more website automatically refresh after x minutes. Couldn't get it to work back then. Can it be done now? FireFox can with the reloadevery add-on. I also like FF's add-ons download statusbar, colorful tabs, the browser sync, and StumbleUpon. Can't seem to do all of that with other browsers.
That being said, I'm using OmniWeb right now, and it seems a lot crisper than FireFox.
tommaso

Scott Baret 03-31-2008 01:17 AM

I'm a Safari guy, I have liked it since the beginning because of its look and feel. Very clean and polished, typical Apple product.

I'll gladly sacrifice a few rarely used features for a good interface...being satisfied with how things work is the most important aspect of using a computer, in my eyes, as long as it works well enough that it is practical. Safari does exactly that.

dws90 04-01-2008 01:26 AM

I originally used Firefox, then switched to Safari after Leopard came out. I'm now back to using Firefox with Beta 4, and I have to say - Apple's going to have to do some pretty amazing work to lure me back to Safari.

novastar22 04-05-2008 07:30 AM

i prefer firefox, it has more features and looks more polished.

nikopolidis 04-07-2008 04:39 AM

I think there should be a multiple choice...
I use Firefox on my work and sometimes I use it at home but mostly I use IE7 at home on my Mac thru Parallels Desktop...
Why? I just like IE and get used to it. :)

raymondlewisjone 04-07-2008 12:37 PM

Safari.....because I just like it better. It has that cool "Apple" look and as far as I'm concerned Firefox and all other browsers look generic in comparison. I use the Debug menu all the time, and I have just been completely turned off with all the silly querks the other browsers have. Not a single one has actually come remotely close to the ease-of-use that Safari has. The guys at Apple are very good with that.


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