Tribute to the Mac Operating System...
 

Unbelievable,

I'm running System 1.0 in MacOS X 10.3.7 thanks to a miniature Macintosh emulator called Mini vMac (emulates a Mac Plus).

I had forgotten how great system 1.0 was at the time!

Yeah.... I love those System 1 zoomrecs, where they bounce off the middle of your screen and then UP at you when you open or launch something.

System 1 was actually slightly before my computer-literate era; I was introduced to the Mac in the form of a lab full of 512Ke's running System 3. Off floppies, of course, which meant that even though we students didn't own the computers, the OS went where we went (in our shirt pockets) and we traded fonts and disk accessories...

A couple years later (System 6 era) I got a copy of System 1 and ran it on my MacSE from time to time just to see what it was like. It was interesting to see a Mac system with no ShutDown or Restart command (you'd eject the diskette and then switch the computer off; they obviously didn't have the possibility of hard disks in mind) and no New Folder command (you'd duplicate the Empty Folder and rename the duplicate). Still, most of it was there. Most of the elements of the GUI that Mac users (and Windows users from Windows95 on) take for granted as "that's how a computer works" were there, in fact. It really is astonishing how modern and up-to-date and polished it looks even after all this time.

It was brilliant. Many kudos to Xerox, then to Steve Jobs and Woz for bringing it to the rest of us.

i want to try it out but i get an unable to locate rom image error... and i read that it is only legal to use a rom image if u own a macintosh plus (i dont) im not an ethical person and dont give a damn if its illegal (as are my mp3 downloads, movie downloads and software downloads) anybody want to point me to where i can obtain this ROM file?

I'd like a copy too!

You can probably get one off eBay or MacResQ for not much more than the cost of shipping. In fact, I suppose it would be legal to buy one and then specify that if the ROM is read to file and emailed to you, you would sell it back for half price and to heck with the shipping. Get creative.

i kinda implied that i wanted to *cough* steal (harsh words) the ROM file... would it not be possible to just download one??? like a ROM file for a games console emulator??

Yeah, really! It's not like it's going to be used for anything! We just want to be able to have it running just for kicks.
:rolleyes:

exactly like when i downloaded a tiger beta... it was just for a little preview i haven't used it since the one day i spent messing with it...

No, no, no
 

Let me say this with the utmost clarity and precision, so there can be no possible confusion: we do not support software piracy in any form on this site. So stop asking.

How about a full-size screen shot? By the way, are the ROMS patented or copyrighted, because it's been over 17 years.
:)

is system 1.0 really buggy?

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Sorry I didn't make it clear in my post above, but yes, Mini vMac requires a ROM image file to run, and so can be legally used only by those who own a Macintosh Plus.

One of the amazing things of System 1.0 is the size of the 'System Folder', it's really small. Look at the difference with the System Folder of System 6.

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Well, yeah, considering that the System, application, and data all had to fit on one (or two if you bought the external floppy drive) 400K (K as in K) floppy disk.

Now you've made me want to go dig out a Plus from the pile of old Macs and try this. ;)

yeah me too!

sys. 1
 

System 1 was awesome when it came out. i went to boarding school at Gow up in Buffalo NY. I remember a science teacher using hypercard for chemistry etc... It was awesome.
Do you guys remember "DANCER" or even "error"
Dancer was a naked girl that would dance on the leftside of the screen.
Error was great. Lets say you had a system crash it would tell you the error. The user then could write down the error number access the error app. and it would tell you if it was a memory problem etc...
Of course the powerbook 120 came out and then I think System 1 was upgraded to 7 ?
Anyways, I think artists have really helped the user friendly designs of programers to help innocent users.
Those were days that I will never forget.

"System Overload"

No, but I remember Virtual Valerie. My disk was destroyed by a virus though.

Very interesting thread. :)

As much as the nay-sayers would like to tout it, Xerox did not develop the Mac environment or the GUI for that matter. I was using a GUI on CDC Terminals (On red plasma screens at that!) long before Xerox had the mouse. What Xerox developed was the mouse. They had a rudimentary word processor that they used with it, but it was very limited.

Woz also had nothing to do with the Mac environment other than the concept of placing the video space at the top of memory to avoid conflict and future restrictions (remember the 640K limit on PCs?).

Jobs had the insight to recognize the potential of the mouse and an idea of how to accomplish it. Pull down menus, the folder concept, the Trash can. These were Apple concepts. The first commercial computer to sport a mouse with this GUI was the Lisa.

The Lisa also had a hard drive, but wasn't the first. The first Personal Computer I ever saw with a hard drive was an Apple II interfaced with a MPI SMD drive (A 5MB drive about the size of a small refrigerator). You wouldn't believe the mass of cables that hung out of the back of that computer! :) I still own a prototype SCSI card for the Apple II, circa around 1982.

The only new technology that was introduced on the first Macintosh was the 3.5" floppy drive.

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Las Vegas
Now that is cool.

lmao what did you do to that computer

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Some of the things to notice in System 1:

-No zoom boxes (they appeared in System 6).

-The trash icon doesn't show it's full (the only way of knowing if there's something in the trash is to open it, in System 7 appeared the "full trash icon").

-The lines inside the Trash are going the opposite way than in System 6 (they changed direction in System 3).

-No "Label" menu (appeared in System 6 on color Macs and in System 7).

-And who remember the 1984 games running in System 1?

Bus'd Out
Ground Zero
Solitaire
On the Contrary
Space Invaders
Amazing
Daleks

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Earlier. System 3.0 had them, System 2.0 did not. Unless they were a System 2.x intermediate-update addition, zoom boxes came with System 3.

I never noticed that before!

I just noticed something odd about miniVmac, too: it's System 4 incompatible! (System 4 will boot but there's no mouse cursor). The same diskimage works fine in the older vMac PPC emulator.

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"The lines inside the Trash are going the opposite way...."

Yes, I remember I read about it some years ago, but I only saw it now. :)

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Yes, System 4.0 behaves the same here. Try using (they work with mini vmac):

System 4.1 Finder 5.5
System 4.2 Finder 6.0
System 4.3 Finder 6.0

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daniel3625
I went to Fine Art School. It was a project. It had to do with change. I just took apart the computer and squirted this yellow goo stuff. the yellow goo stuff then expands (Maximum Overload). I did that project at a time when I really hated computers (I did not think they were efficient). I had a G3 powerbook that didnt have firewire or USB. I went to a school that "I thought had the right EDUC. but I was wrong." I couldnt ever get that old laptop to work and I had a Powerbook 120.
It is something that keeps me motivated. It is something I keep displayed in my bedroom. It reminds me of the past, and striving for something better.
I think of these ideas when i see it. simple, small, efficient, visually stimulating, breakthrough technology.
P.S. I understand how some Apple Users would be mad to see that image. I apologize to all the Apple Users who think I messed up a one of a kind computer.

Yea… A polyurethaned Mac Portable is pretty distressing.

Of course, it's not the best of the breed, but it was a landmark. It was about the equivalent of a Mac Plus; But who would have thought to put any computer in a package even smaller than the suitcase Compaq of the time? I have a lot of old Macs and Apples (even a NeXT box!), but that one I'm lacking.

Someone else who thinks like I do! :) If you've ever seen a screenshot from the ALTO you'll notice one thing missing... MENUS! Plus, the reason the Alto didn't sell was because it was priced at $40000. It took a company like Apple to figure out the interface and market it... and then it took a company like Microsoft to steal it (and screw it up). :rolleyes:

First GUI? Doug Engelbart and colleagues at the Stanford Research Institute. 1968.

And Alan Kay and colleagues, funded by ARPA largely as grad students but later moving on to Xerox PARC, whence came SmallTalk and the Object Oriented GUI.

Some of these folks were later hired by Steve Jobs and Apple, Alan Kay and Larry Rosenstein being highly memorable among them.

Man, that's cool... it's hard to believe people had that vision that long ago. I love history.