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Arif 11-04-2004 12:12 PM

As if panther wasn't already bad enough, Tiger will only eat up more of my beloved RAM.

I'm not planning on buying it, i'm planning on buying a new computer just after tiger's release, I know the first thing i'm gonna do is open the terminal and wipe dashboard from total existance!

bramley 11-04-2004 03:12 PM

Well, we all have to upgrade at some point.

Will be following Norm's technique too. Seemed to work well when I moved to Panther from Jaguar. My other technique worked well too - that's letting the really early adopters 'road-test' the latest thing with their data first ;)

hexstar 11-04-2004 09:01 PM

Nope, I have no plans of upgrading since I'm using YellowDog Linux instead and will never go back after my Xperience with MacOS X

Phil St. Romain 11-04-2004 09:16 PM

Wow, that is a nice server set, Craig. Still running 10.1.5 Server here as well, mostly serving web sites. No problems with it, but 10.4 has lots of new really appealing options. :)

Caius 11-05-2004 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones
Just curious – I see that one person has checked off "Already running it".

Could you please illuminate the rest of us?


;)

That would be me. I am under a disclosure acty thingy, but (bearing in mind I'm running it on a 450mhz iMac Indigo) its faster than panther. And spotlight is soooo good. bad point, it crashes often, but people i know (other developers) say it runs ok. i do have one of the first developer releases though... plus the older computer with beta software isn't a very good idea :)

oh well, its on a 4G 40 GB iPod is my excuse. Actually it runs fine when I boot my mates G5 iMac off the iPod and use it.

Can't wait for the Full Version!

{Got a New Bike yesterday!! :D }

hexstar 11-05-2004 07:43 PM

kind of contradicting...
Quote:

it crashes often
...
Quote:

people i know (other developers) say it runs ok
if having a OS crash often is it running ok I'd say that the standard for Apple and their products has just dropped dramitcally :eek: ...thank god I switched to yellowdog linux

Craig R. Arko 11-05-2004 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexstar
kind of contradicting...... if having a OS crash often is it running ok I'd say that the standard for Apple and their products has just dropped dramitcally :eek: ...thank god I switched to yellowdog linux

I think most of the issues can be handled by deleting the ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.pebkac.plist preference file. :cool:

hexstar 11-05-2004 07:56 PM

one thing during my adventure with MacOS X is that I realized they got rid of the ability to manage virtual memory :confused:...I think that if that feature still existed in MacOS X (if it does, where?) I'd be able to make it smaller and thus reduce if not solve the crashing problem me and my dad have experienced (my dad still experiences it :()

rubaiyat 11-05-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones
I skipped Panther (still running 10.2.8).
But I would definitely like to upgrade to Tiger, ASAP. Wish it would arrive in January!

The new technology always looks better from a distance.

I am still on Jaguar because Panther disabled the graphics card for my 2nd monitor and a new graphics card on an old Mac is such an expensive and mediocre option. Also I was really apprehensive about what Panther just might do to my 5 very large external FW drives.

A lot of those "must have" technologies in each OS upgrade mostly turn out to be lame and irrelevant in practice. Still I do want the speed and better UI, if only Panther didn't halve my desktop acreage!!!

Also I wish it wasn't such a pain to upgrade, use multiple OSes and Users in OSX, then I could have the best of all worlds.

Needless to sat Tiger will have teeth, not just cute stripes.

ArcticStones 11-06-2004 03:39 AM

My impression is that Tiger represents a radical forward development for the OS. And if it’s stable, which I have every reason to expect from Apple, I’ll embrace it and put it to use. I will, however, wait to read the reviews and hear the reports from the early adopters -- right here on MacOSXhints. :)

Whenever I talk to PC/Windows users and hear their ongoing troubles, I feel deep gratitude that I "switched" in 1994. Never looked back.

I think it has become something of a tragic standing joke that Microsoft, despite their huge army of programmers and the zillions in their bank account, is utterly unable to resolve security issues. No wonder more and more corporations -- and government agencies -- are desperately looking for alternatives! :eek:

And I, for one, am glad I’m running the alternative. I am very excited about what Apple will come up with in Tiger. And it’s really great to watch Apple’s current market success.
A well-deserved reward for a truly great, visionary company!!

Think different!
ArcticStones

Arif 11-06-2004 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexstar
one thing during my adventure with MacOS X...

Hexstar, get over it or get lost. Your constant whining about your "Xperience" does me (and i'm sure everyone else too) little interest.

hayne 11-06-2004 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubaiyat
Also I wish it wasn't such a pain to upgrade, use multiple OSes and Users in OSX, then I could have the best of all worlds

You could always install Panther (and later Tiger) on one of your external hard drives and boot from that when desired. Couple that with arranging to have your Users folder on an external drive (see the macosxhints articles about this) and switching back and forth between OS versions would be just a matter of rebooting.

hayne 11-06-2004 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iNemo
I am under a disclosure acty thingy

You should be aware that you probably are violating your NDA by making any statements about your experience with Tiger - even those few that you have given above.

nkuvu 11-06-2004 09:14 AM

I don't currently have any plans to upgrade. Panther is running quite well on my system, I don't see a real reason to mess with it.

I also felt the same about Jaguar. I went directly from Puma to Panther, skipping Jaguar entirely. I'm really happy about the upgrade, Panther runs on my system much better than Puma did.

yellow 11-06-2004 11:43 AM

Wow... A DEAD heat!

I will upgrade immediately
24 votes
38.71%

I will upgrade at some point
24 votes
38.71%

ArcticStones 11-07-2004 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow
Wow... A DEAD heat!

Or seen from a different angle: over 75 % are planning to upgrade, only about % 9 have no plans to upgrade (slightly fewer than those who like riding bikes :) ), and one single single user wishes to wait for the Lion King.

I’d say those are very positive and impressive numbers!

ArcticStones


PS In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates?

hembeck 11-07-2004 10:08 AM

Tiger Upgrade
 
A more apporiate response for me is: I'll upgrade to Tiger whenever I buy I new mac. My old iMac just would be able to handle it. :rolleyes:

-Fernando

pakkman781 11-07-2004 07:10 PM

Dashboard! Dashboard! Dashboard!

rubaiyat 11-08-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayne
You could always install Panther (and later Tiger) on one of your external hard drives and boot from that when desired. Couple that with arranging to have your Users folder on an external drive (see the macosxhints articles about this) and switching back and forth between OS versions would be just a matter of rebooting.

I do actually use separate drives for the OSX versions, but you end up with 2 User folders, 2 lots of mail, 2 lots of Web bookmarks, 2 lots of documents etc etc,... Each not accessable when you are you using the alternate OS.

On top of that try networking with a PC and getting access with both systems.

:confused:

Not to mention keeping all your applications and preferences in order and trying to remember where it all is and which version you did what work in.

Gary54 11-11-2004 10:40 AM

My real answer?
 
None of the above.

I need speed and efficiency, not eye candy. This is a work machine, not a play machine. There are things about the "information density" efficiency of OS 9 that I still miss. I could organize and lay my hands on what I wanted when I wanted it far easier than any of the X versions I have tried yet. I think the Dock sux big lemons. Its cute ... bah humbug. Give me my pop up folders back.

I am efficiency obsessive to the point where I count mouse clicks to get done what I need to. One of the big reasons I used a Mac for years instead of a Windows machine even though I have most of a MS admin cert. How many steps does it take to do a given operation?

I used to use Go Mac and pop up folders. Open a common program? One click. I organize all the files that go into a job into one folder, that goes as a pop up at the bottom of the screen where old tired eyes can readily identify what it is and its always in the same place. One click .. its open ..second click ..I have the file I want open and the Finder folder has vanished. Two clicks and I am working on what I need to be and the computer is not bothering me.

The Dock? Sure ..I could put a job folder in the dock same way The little ****er squirms around and you cannot count on what was there before being in the same place the next time, the icons are bigger and take more screen real estate but harder to distinguish from each other ... One click its open .. two clicks I have the file open I want .. now what? I have to switch back to the Finder ... another click or keyboard stroke and then minimize or close the window ... then go back to what I wanted to do. Another three clicks. Not to mention the extra screen real estate that everything takes up. There is hardly room left for viewing the files in a Finder window on a 15" screen. I'm going to have to bump my second screen from a 15 to a 17 just to accomodate it.

These are the same problems I had with Windoze. An extra 2-3-4-5 clicks or keyboard strokes to get done any given thing ..add them up at the end of the day .. and how much interaction with the computer did you do that was utterly unnecessary, takes time, thought and distraction from your work?

Its cute. Bah hum bug. I just now made the switch from 9 to X .. 3 years after intro? That reason was among them.

If Tiger gives me more of that ..then I will upgrade sooner..if it doesnt .. then it will be later or never.

Gary


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