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jkp23 11-04-2003 04:18 PM

Sao:

1: I have Apple X11 as boxed with panther.

2:
Code:

Information about 1107 packages read in 4 seconds.
 i  qt3-shlibs      3.2.1-12    Cross-Platform GUI application framework

3:
Code:

Information about 1107 packages read in 1 seconds.
(i)  freetype2-shlibs          2.1.3-11            TrueType font rendering library, version 2, shared libs

I hope that helps in the diagnostics....thanks again Sao.

sao 11-04-2003 04:26 PM

jkp23,

Great, will wait to see if score has the same. Will come back in the morning. (It's very late here, I need to sleep)

score 11-04-2003 04:32 PM

xnmap crashes like you said. nmap from the gui works fine, as far as i can tell.
/sw/bin/nmap = ok
/sw/bin/xnmap = not ok

and i'm about to try reinstalling the bundle-kde-ssl binary while haveing qt3 already compiled from source. let's see if this works??

let you know later tonight

jkp23 11-04-2003 04:47 PM

Which GUI? (nmap)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by score
xnmap crashes like you said. nmap from the gui works fine, as far as i can tell.
...what do you mean by 'nmap from the gui'? I have two ways of starting a gui as far as I can tell, but they both bring the same (non functional) program up.

that is:

/sw/bin/nmapfe
/sw/bin/xnmap

is there another gui i dont know about that works? btw: sorry I know this is a little off thread....if it carries on much longer ill start a new one. cheers score for testing that for me btw.

score 11-04-2003 08:53 PM

i should edit the previous post. nmap with a gui DOES NOT work. that is what i meant to say.. but i said the opposite. if you just try to use /sw/bin/nmap as a terminal application, you'll be ok. but i don't think that's what you want.

score 11-04-2003 10:18 PM

i have some good news and some bad news.
good news: i got kde up and running on my machine


bad news: i changed some things so i don't know how much help i'll be in figuring out the problem. but i'll give you the info., hopefully it helps a little.
1: apple x11 from panther

2: i qt3-shlibs 3.2.2-11 Cross-Platform GUI application framework

3: i freetype2 2.1.3-11 TrueType font rendering library, version ...
i freetype2-shlib 2.1.3-11 TrueType font rendering library, version ...


this is what i did differently to make it work as closely as i can remember.
1. using fink commander i enabled unstable.
2. using fink command line i purged qt3-shlibs (this also removed various parts of the bundle-kde-ssl installation)
3. using fink commander i installed qt3-shlibs from source (this got me 3.2.2, which was in unstable)
4. using fink commander i installed bundle-kde-ssl binary

and it works! ok, so.. this might be good for jkp23 because now (hopefully) you'll be able to run it.
and maybe this narrows it down a bit for sao?

anyways, thanks for the help!!! I would not have realized that i needed to purge/install qt3 unstable from source without reading your posts here and in on the fink list.

sao 11-05-2003 02:12 AM

jkp23,

If you want to go with what score did, just let me know and that's fine with me.

But, if you want to find out what's really going on (we might get lucky), then continue with me.

Let's check if that symbol is in your libfreetype or not. Please, post the result of:

% nm /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib | grep _FT_Access_Frame

and

% nm /sw/lib/libqt-mt.3.dylib | grep _FT_Access_Frame

I don't see it in Panther, but see it in Apple X11-beta3.

It certainly looks like your libqt-mt.3.dylib was compiled while an older X11 was installed. Or could it be that your outdated freetype2-shlibs is the culprit?

jkp23 11-05-2003 07:02 AM

Lets follow your logic Sao...
 
So,

just coz i would like to keep things as vanilla as possible, Im gonna follow your logic Sao, and try and sort this without having to recompile anything...

the output from :

Code:

nm /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib | grep _FT_Access_Frame
predicatabily produces nothing. the second check on the sw lib produces:

Code:

nm /sw/lib/libqt-mt.3.dylib | grep _FT_Access_Frame
        U _FT_Access_Frame

So, as you say it looks as if the lib included with Panther is certainly different. What do you think would happen if we tried installing Apples X11 from thge new installer on their site? Do we think that this other version of the library could by chance be in there and that this is just a mistake...? Or do we think that we should be recompiling the fink stuff to agree with the new state of affairs?

jkp23 11-05-2003 08:07 AM

So just to confirm....

I downloaded the Apple X11 install, and extracted

Code:

/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib -> alias : /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.3.dylib
It also doesnt have the reference, and _is_ exactly the same file. So, this is no mistake. The final version of Apple's X11 contains a newer library, that doesn't have the symbols referenced in the qt3-shlibs binary that has been compiled for this distribution.

So am I right in assuming that if not us then somebody is going to have to recompile it for Panther and Apple X11 v1.0? Are there now going to have to be two versions, one for Apple X11 and one for the other distros which might still be using the other file?

At the end of the day, what I want to know is, should I just follow scores logic and recompile qt3-shlibs, as that does indeed seem like it is going to be the only solution right?

sao 11-05-2003 02:57 PM

jkp23,

Sure, recompile qt3 (takes a long time) as it seems your copy of libqt-mt.3.dylib was compiled when a different version of X11 was installed. Let me know how it goes.

I am now seeing other problems with kde and Panther which may have or not the same source. Check the following thread:

http://forums.macosxhints.com/showth...threadid=17053

It seems at the moment, kde and Panther(quartz) are not working very well together.

jkp23 11-05-2003 04:39 PM

so with these other probs, would it seem logical to wait for a proper panther distro of these binaries?

also, do we think the prob is only in these qtlibs, or perhaps other places too?

sao 11-06-2003 12:46 AM

jkp23,

No, I think you should go ahead and do it. But be sure to follow the indications for Configuration and Startup of KDE adviced in 'fink info bundle-kde'.

jkp23 11-06-2003 08:27 AM

score:

is there any way you could pack up your binaries and host them somewhere, or just pm me and ill give you some way of gettting them to me.

only that i'm guessing this compile is gonna take a _long_ time. it might be nice for others stumbling on this prob too, as it does seem that the prob is with those libs.

lemme us know.

cheers.

score 11-06-2003 10:33 PM

jkp23,
I'm also trying to get Nicotine running on my machine so since i checked this thread last, i've deleted sw and no longer have the binaries. Even if I did, my school is really anal about students uploading anything so I wouldn't be able to host or even send them anywhere. Installing qt3 from source only takes a few hours, and then the binaries for the kde bundle don't take long at all. Sorry I can't help you out. After I finish with nicotine, i might actually just go with gnome. I haven't used kde or gnome before and i'm just trying things out.

sao 11-07-2003 11:01 AM

score,

I installed Nicotine using Fink in Jaguar and it's running very well in Panther too.

score 11-09-2003 02:12 AM

I ended up going with KDE in the end and i have nicotine working as well. I don't know what i'd do without nicotine. All the os x soulseek projects seem to go no where! here's to hoping that soleseek does not follow the pack...

but this is all off topic and just me rambling, so i'll stop.

sao 11-09-2003 03:46 AM

Quote:

score wrote:
I don't know what i'd do without nicotine.
Don't smoke so much...too much nicotine is bad for your health... :)

Nicotine (last picture is for you)

score 11-10-2003 02:41 AM

kde theme problem
 
NICE screenshot by the way :)


I'm having some problems with kde themes that maybe you guys could help me with. whenever i run ./configure for any theme i download, it returns this error
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!


does this have something to do with the previous problems with qt i was having?? any thoughts? i had the feeling that this was a os x specific problem so i thought i'd post it here.

score

sao 11-10-2003 05:51 AM

score,

Welcome to the club...:)

http://forums.macosxhints.com/showth...threadid=15875

Anyhow, from the Fink FAQ:

Quote:

When compiling something yourself outside of fink, the compiler and linker need to be told where to find the fink-installed libraries and headers. For a package that uses standard configure/make process, you need to set the CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, and LDFLAGS environment variables:

setenv CFLAGS -I/sw/include
setenv LDFLAGS -L/sw/lib
setenv CXXFLAGS $CFLAGS
setenv CPPFLAGS $CXXFLAGS


It is often easiest just to add these to your .tcshrc or .cshrc so they are set automatically. If a package does not use these variables, you may need to add the "-I/sw/include" (for headers) and "-L/sw/lib" (for libraries) to the compile lines yourself. Some packages may use similar non-standard variables such as EXTRA_CFLAGS or --with-qt-dir= configure options. "./configure --help" will usually give you a list of the extra configure options.

In addition, you may need to install the development headers (e.g. foo-1.0-1-dev for the library packages that you are using, if they aren't already installed.

score 11-11-2003 09:02 PM

themes
 
Thanks for the help. I'm still unable to get the themes installed. However, I can get passed configure now. most things seem to fail on make install. oh well, perhaps i'll to wait and see if the themes show up in fink. some of those screenshots look quite nice, hehe

score


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