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Palm 4.1 Survived Panther Install Fine

Pam 4.1 Survived Panther Install Fine. *** I ran Upgrade.

Please Note that Archive and Install Kills Hot Sync and Conduits in Jag and then you have to reinstall...

Also Please note I have had nasty nasty Problems with Mark Space Missing Link in Jag and well never ever use there unecessary software again.

I mention because it creates that Nasty Install/Uninstall problem mentioned elsewhere. And then the Only Fix is to hunt down all Palm Bits and Pieces before running install, preferable after saving user data.

I reinstalled missing sync with panther, and it works better than it ever did before. I've had no problems with it at all. Palm desktop won't install at all, but missing sync works great. Don't know what could have happened with yous.

Safari unexpectedly quits everytime I startup under Panther. No idea why, gives me this:

Code:

Date/Time:  2003-10-31 15:19:29 -0500

OS Version: 10.3 (Build 7B85)



Command:    Safari (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari)

PID:        486

Thread:     0



Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000020



Thread 0 Crashed:

 #0   0x9083122c in objc_msgSend (objc_msgSend + 12)

 #1   0x00b2e668 in QuitFinder (QuitFinder + 564)

 #2   0x00b2f578 in QuitFinder (QuitFinder + 4420)

 #3   0x90834060 in _objc_call_loads_for_image (_objc_call_loads_for_image + 192)

 #4   0x8fe1865c in call_funcs_for_add_image (call_funcs_for_add_image + 140)

 #5   0x8fe18594 in call_registered_funcs_for_add_images_in_objects (call_registered_funcs_for_add_images_in_objects + 104)

 #6   0x8fe184b4 in call_registered_funcs_for_add_images (call_registered_funcs_for_add_images + 28)

 #7   0x8fe11874 in link_in_need_modules (link_in_need_modules + 412)

 #8   0x8fe134e4 in _dyld_link_module (_dyld_link_module + 564)

 #9   0x9003f5a8 in NSLinkModule (NSLinkModule + 104)

 #10  0x908380a8 in objc_loadModule (objc_loadModule + 136)

 #11  0x90a573bc in _NSBundleLoadCode (_NSBundleLoadCode + 836)

 #12  0x90a56d48 in -[NSBundle load] (-[NSBundle load] + 308)

 #13  0x00b15bec in +[SIMBL loadBundle:forApplicationIdentifier:] (SIMBL.m:85)

 #14  0x00b159d8 in +[SIMBL load] (SIMBL.m:33)

 #15  0x90834060 in _objc_call_loads_for_image (_objc_call_loads_for_image + 192)

 #16  0x8fe1865c in call_funcs_for_add_image (call_funcs_for_add_image + 140)

 #17  0x8fe18594 in call_registered_funcs_for_add_images_in_objects (call_registered_funcs_for_add_images_in_objects + 104)

 #18  0x8fe184b4 in call_registered_funcs_for_add_images (call_registered_funcs_for_add_images + 28)

 #19  0x8fe11874 in link_in_need_modules (link_in_need_modules + 412)

 #20  0x8fe134e4 in _dyld_link_module (_dyld_link_module + 564)

 #21  0x9003f5a8 in NSLinkModule (NSLinkModule + 104)

 #22  0x908380a8 in objc_loadModule (objc_loadModule + 136)

 #23  0x90a573bc in _NSBundleLoadCode (_NSBundleLoadCode + 836)

 #24  0x90a56d48 in -[NSBundle load] (-[NSBundle load] + 308)

 #25  0x90a6ac98 in -[NSBundle principalClass] (-[NSBundle principalClass] + 48)

 #26  0x93084afc in -[NSInputManager _loadBundle] (-[NSInputManager _loadBundle] + 128)

 #27  0x93085c8c in -[NSInputManager initWithName:host:] (-[NSInputManager initWithName:host:] + 1352)

 #28  0x92eb97c4 in +[NSInputManager initialize] (+[NSInputManager initialize] + 920)

 #29  0x90832a20 in class_initialize (class_initialize + 320)

 #30  0x90831564 in _class_lookupMethodAndLoadCache (_class_lookupMethodAndLoadCache + 132)

 #31  0x908312d8 in objc_msgSend (objc_msgSend + 184)

 #32  0x92e8f598 in -[NSApplication finishLaunching] (-[NSApplication finishLaunching] + 132)

 #33  0x92dfd588 in -[NSApplication run] (-[NSApplication run] + 116)

 #34  0x92eb9a1c in NSApplicationMain (NSApplicationMain + 464)

 #35  0x0000c8a0 in 0xc8a0

 #36  0x0000c714 in 0xc714



Thread 1:

 #0   0x900075c8 in mach_msg_trap (mach_msg_trap + 8)

 #1   0x90007118 in mach_msg (mach_msg + 56)

 #2   0x90191930 in __CFRunLoopRun (__CFRunLoopRun + 848)

 #3   0x901960bc in CFRunLoopRunSpecific (CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 328)

 #4   0x909fced0 in -[NSRunLoop runMode:beforeDate:] (-[NSRunLoop runMode:beforeDate:] + 172)

 #5   0x90a159ec in -[NSRunLoop run] (-[NSRunLoop run] + 76)

 #6   0x953185b8 in +[WebFileDatabase _syncLoop:] (+[WebFileDatabase _syncLoop:] + 168)

 #7   0x90a3a198 in forkThreadForFunction (forkThreadForFunction + 108)

 #8   0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)



Thread 2:

 #0   0x90017c4c in getdirentries (getdirentries + 12)

 #1   0x900120e4 in _readdir_unlocked (_readdir_unlocked + 100)

 #2   0x9000d524 in readdir (readdir + 68)

 #3   0x9001c584 in fts_build (fts_build + 900)

 #4   0x90020eac in fts_read (fts_read + 492)

 #5   0x953111f4 in WebLRUFileListRebuildFileDataUsingRootDirectory (WebLRUFileListRebuildFileDataUsingRootDirectory + 256)

 #6   0x953188e0 in -[WebFileDatabase(WebFileDatabasePrivate) _createLRUList:] (-[WebFileDatabase(WebFileDatabasePrivate) _createLRUList:] + 104)

 #7   0x90a3a198 in forkThreadForFunction (forkThreadForFunction + 108)

 #8   0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)



PPC Thread State:

  srr0: 0x9083122c srr1: 0x0200f030                vrsave: 0x00000000

    cr: 0x42000244  xer: 0x00000007   lr: 0x00b2e668  ctr: 0x90831220

    r0: 0x00b2e668   r1: 0xbfffd6a0   r2: 0xa00011ac   r3: 0xa0830454

    r4: 0x00b34c74   r5: 0x00000000   r6: 0x00000000   r7: 0x00000000

    r8: 0x00000000   r9: 0x00000008  r10: 0xfefefeff  r11: 0x00b3604c

   r12: 0x00000000  r13: 0xa2df942c  r14: 0xa2de942c  r15: 0xa2de942c

   r16: 0xa2df5744  r17: 0xa2df5744  r18: 0x0014b000  r19: 0x00000000

   r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00138320  r22: 0xa2df5744  r23: 0x00115a20

   r24: 0x00b386c0  r25: 0x00000006  r26: 0x00b3874c  r27: 0x00000006

   r28: 0x00b38740  r29: 0x00b3782c  r30: 0x00b3782c  r31: 0x00b2e640

Formz, you might want to start a new thread with that problem, as this thread (should be) is mainly for 3rd party app that worked under Jaguar and are broken under Panther.

Quote:

Originally posted by yellow
Formz, you might want to start a new thread with that problem, as this thread (should be) is mainly for 3rd party app that worked under Jaguar and are broken under Panther.

Ok will do. Thanks.

Re: palm problems too

I've had occasional problems with Palm Desktop as well, but have been able to resolve them lately by moving dropped conduits from /Library/Application Support/PalmHotSync/Disabled Conduits to the /Library/Application Support/PalmHotSync/Conduits folder. That didn't work at first, but does OK since reinstalling Palm Desktop.

Window shade v3.0.1 is made to be compatible with 10.2 and 10.3 , but I just read a post at the x11-users lists, that it breaks X11:

"Unsanity Window Shade v3 and v3.0.1 breaks X11 - you're unable to minimise (or Windowshade/MIP) any windows".

http://lists.apple.com/mhonarc/x11-users/msg04314.html

I just received an update from Netzero saying they now have a Panther compatable version available. I am at work so I can't check it out, but will do so this evening. Anyway, I'm probably the only person on here using Netzero.

Corel Photo Paint 11

Corel Photo Paint 11 as part of my Graphics Suite 11 does not start any more. It quits after showing the info-window during startup. The system doesn't even pop up an error message. All other applications of the graphics suite work well.
Has anybody else experienced this problem? Probably I am the only Mac user having CorelDraw installed on his computer (shame on me :D )...
Installation of GS-Servicepack 1 did not help...

Default Folder X, Extensis Suitcase, Dock Extender

I installed Panther with my main user account active. Stupidly, I failed to remove Default Folder X, Extensis Suitcase and Dock Extender as background/log-in applications before I started.

After the final restart I logged in OK, but when the Finder came up it was flashing on and off once a second and every single app lasted about half a second before it crashed.

I restarted as another user who didn't have those three utilities set up and there were no problems. After a couple of phone calls to Apple they couldn't find any way to rescue my main user account and I had to create a new one, save my old Home Folder (this is all automated in the Accounts section of Sys Prefs - but you have to be VERY careful to press the right buttons or you could lose everything). Then I had to copy everything back from a huge disk image of my old folder. I also had to re-enter a hell of a lot of settings and serial numbers.

Not knowing which of three utilities was to blame, I tried installing Dock Extender again. Everything appeared to go OK until I tried to apply my new menus to the dock, at which point the dock disappeared and wouldn't come back. Restarting didn't help, so I uninstalled Dock Extender and manually deleted all the related files I could find from my Library folder. Another restart brought the dock back.

I suspect Extensis suitcase may be blameless and it was Default Folder X that caused the big trouble, but I'm going to try managing fonts with Fontbook for a while before I try Suitcase again.

From the Default Folder folks:

Quote:

WARNING: Versions of Default Folder X prior to 1.9 are incompatible with Mac OS X Panther. Do not install Panther without first upgrading to Default Folder X 1.9. If you have installed Panther and all applications are quitting as soon as you launch them, log in while holding down the Shift key. After doing so, disable Default Folder X in System Preferences or download and install Default Folder X 1.9.2b1 immediately.

I'm surprised the Apple folks didn't have you try to log in with the Shift key down to avoid Startup Item conflicts!

Just read this on MacFixit:

"Corel PhotoPaint: Some users have reported problems starting up Corel PhotoPaint and some other Corel applications after upgrading to Mac OS X 10.3. In some cases, this issue can be resolved by holding down the "Shift" key during application launch. You will then be presented with a dialog box that asks:

"Overwrite the current workspace with the factory default?"

Clicking yes will result in loss of any custom workspaces, but has resolved the issue for some readers."

I personally haven't taken the plunge Panther wise, so can't validate the above solution, but it might prove useful for those that have.

Rob.

kodak easy share

i did an upgrade to panther and now Kodak Easy Share doesn't work. I tried re-installing it to no avail.

Clayton

@robarmo: Thank you for that hint! It worked and PhotoPaint starts up again - so now everything works well except for my Microtek ScanSuite software. But there is said to be a hint for that on the Microtek support site...

Toast 5.2 doesn't appear to be working. (I did an erase and install of Panther)

Toast 5.2.1 works with 10.3 (and 10.3.1) on my G4

Quote:

Originally posted by zeb
Toast 5.2 doesn't appear to be working. (I did an erase and install of Panther)

As you, I did an erase-and-clean install. But the version of Toast I installed was from the 5.2.1 updater. I then ran Repair Permissions before launching Toast. No problem using Toast on my 733-mhz G4 with 10.3.1 or 10.3 earler.

Respectfully, Norm

Quote:

Originally posted by petey
anyone try QuicKeys on Panther?

i know it's at least slightly broken, but i'd like to find out how broken it really is.

i'm addicted to QK.

works well here, 2.02B6

did an upgrade to panther, no archive etc. - but my Macs are kinda new

Toast 5.21 works fine on 10.3 and 10.31

Toast 5.21 works fine on 10.3 and 10.31

5.2 is an older version, Upgrade.... 5.21 Fixed a lot of issues with Toast and Jaguar.

Safari minimum font size

With Panther came the latest Safari 1.1 which no longer lets you set a minimum font size! On a 1280x1024 display with my old eyes the fonts are too small. Every new page requires an "apple+" keystroke twice. This hint is broken:"Set a minimum font size in Safari"

Editing the .plist or using the latest Safari Enhancer doesn't work any more.

Maybe it will become a preference in Safari 1.2? :mad:

After an Archive and Install upgrade to Panther, attempting to minimize an open window of Vue 4.2 (there was a required upgrade to run on Panther) caused the tool bars and 'outline of the window' to move to the dock but the actual image portion of the windows remained behind on the screen. The process would not expand from the dock again. Using WindowShade would do similar except the windowshade effect would not roll back down. The only way out was quitting the program, but you could save your work so it wasn't a total disaster.

I presumed there was a software conflict and tried eliminating startup items to no avail nor did trashing prefs accomplish anything. Booting into my diagnostic user account which has absolutely no third party system enhancements didn't solve the issue.

Successful resolution of the issue came only with downloading the new Panther compatible installer, trashing all the old Vue files, inserting my original Vue 4 install CD and running the new installer which used all the needed files off the CD. As a result, I have to conclude that Vue installed some file or files in the Previous System Folder which I didn't find (or were incompatible) after the Panther install.