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bseuk 10-03-2003 09:31 AM

iPhoto is rubbish, what's better?
 
So I'm getting Photoshop 7, after playing with the demo it's well worth the upgrade. Image ready seems perfect for the web stuff i do.

Now iPhoto is useless to me as an image editor. the useful bit is having something which makes thumbnails of all your images to browse through, but I cant stand that it makes copies of everything and puts them in numbered stupid folders.
Is there a way of making iphoto just show originals without movingn them? or maybe another better image browser?
or maybe theres a way of getting photoshop browser to load all images inside folders, inside the one your viewing?

Any help much appreciated.

digiglyphics 10-03-2003 09:43 AM

the image browser in photoshop does just that and you can choose whether or not to save a cache file into an image folder to make preview them faster in the future.

iPhoto is not an image editing app. I don't know who sold you that line of bull. No more of an image editor than that Kodak Kiosk in you local Drug Store Photo Department.

fin.

bseuk 10-03-2003 09:47 AM

Quote:

iPhoto is not an image editing app. I don't know who sold you that line of bull. No more of an image editor than that Kodak Kiosk in you local Drug Store Photo Department.
Absolutely I just put that in so that people didn't say "I just need to crop and colour balance so its fine for me" or something.

So I can make the Photoshop browser show all files deeper within a folder? Smart.

I'm gonna go and have a poke around in PS then.

Cheers.

digiglyphics 10-03-2003 09:59 AM

i'm sorry I may have misled you there. I misunderstood. The only way PS will show you the preview of folder contents is if you double click the folder. I understand what you are asking now and yeah that would be nice if you could preview sub-directories from the parent directory.

I remember you from yesterday, glad you are enjoying your PS7 Demo it is sweet.

sorry again for the misunderstanding

mwaehner 10-03-2003 10:07 AM

MediaPro is a great cataloging App
 
It sounds like what you need is an image cataloging application. This is something important to me as a pro digital photographer.

The three major choices are Extensis Portfolio, Canto Cumulus, and MediaPro (formerly iview multimedia)

I actually bought a licence to Cumulus but uninstalled it; MediaPro is perfect- it handles huge catalogs on multiple disks and allows you search for images by category or keyword.

I timed myself once, and it took me 40 seconds to locate a photograph based on the name of the subject (time includes launching the applpication!)

Here's a link to a review on a pro photo website:
http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content...id=7-6337-6367

And here's a trial download:
http://www.iview-multimedia.com/products/download.html

Ptitboul 10-03-2003 11:11 AM

Extensis Portfolio is fine too. I am very happy to use it.

bseuk 10-03-2003 11:15 AM

I had a look at mediapro and it looks very good.
I think I cant justify it right now but I may go for it in the future.
I fiddled about with PS's browse feature and I think I can use that realy well. Its very cool.

Cheers folkses.

BSE

Jacques 10-04-2003 11:09 AM

I prefer GraphicConverter - it has an excellent browser and gives you total control of how the files are laid out.

I really don't like the way iPhoto uses it's own obscure filing system, so bizarre..

Jacques

poultryfarm 10-04-2003 11:12 AM

love it
 
iview media pro

mnewman 10-04-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jacques
I prefer GraphicConverter - it has an excellent browser and gives you total control of how the files are laid out.

I really don't like the way iPhoto uses it's own obscure filing system, so bizarre..
I have to agree. I've been using GC for years. The browser does just what you expect and relies on the normal file system heirarchy. GC imports directly from cameras and media cards and does an excellent and fast job of adjusting images. It has a batch mode which enables you to quickly apply almost any GC command (including file rename) across an entire set of selected images.

I tried to get used to iPhoto, but, as Jacques says, "so bizarre..."

Ptitboul 10-04-2003 06:48 PM

The big advantage of iPhoto, from my point of view, is that it transparently stores the original of the photo when you make changes.

rusto 10-05-2003 02:55 AM

A happy MediaPro user here...as well as a happy GraphicConverter user for the last 8 years.

petey 10-05-2003 04:09 AM

PhotoGridX
 
PhotoGridX is by far the best thumbnail viewer application I've found.

Try it and you'll be sold.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/11604

vickishome 10-06-2003 12:10 AM

Another vote for
 
Another vote for iView MediaPro. I've used it for years.

djn1 10-06-2003 07:18 PM

Just in case any more votes were needed for iView MediaPro:

I just got hold of a copy of this and have to say that I'm delighted with it. One big plus point for me is the ability to customize its html output. There's an example here if anyone's interested.

nresnik 10-07-2003 04:01 AM

Try iView Media Pro. Excellent.
For editing try Pixelnhance.
Bye

poultryfarm 10-07-2003 07:24 AM

iView MediaPro
 
i like iView's JPG Rotater
rotates without re-compressing + keeps all original anotations.

Jacques 10-07-2003 07:28 AM

JPEG Lossless Rotating
 
Quote:

Originally posted by poultryfarm
i like iView's JPG Rotater - rotates without re-compressing + keeps all original anotations.
An important feature. Just to note for others, GC also does this.

Jacques

msmercury01 10-11-2003 02:17 AM

I use iPhoto to store all my photos. I don't show them by rolls but by folders. I have folders set up for different subjects and it works fine for me. I do use adobe photoshop elements to edit, though. You are right that photoshop is useless for photo editing.
Teri

djn1 10-11-2003 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by msmercury01
You are right that photoshop is useless for photo editing.
Photoshop is _the_ image editing programme - period. While it may have a steeper learning curve than some of the more basic image apps it really can't be beaten. Anything that any other app can do Photoshop can do - admittedly, some things may take a little longer but the degree of control you have can't be beaten. In other words, I think your comment is something of a sweeping statement. Would you care to qualify what you mean?

msmercury01 10-11-2003 12:57 PM

I'm so sorry!! That was a major typo! I meant to say "you are right, iPhoto, is useless for photo editing". Whoops! I call myself proofreading my posts before I hit "submit" but that was a major error. Sorry about that!
Teri

djn1 10-11-2003 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by msmercury01
I'm so sorry!! That was a major typo! I meant to say "you are right, iPhoto, is useless for photo editing". Whoops! I call myself proofreading my posts before I hit "submit" but that was a major error. Sorry about that!
No worries - it did seem like an odd claim to make ;)

rspress 10-12-2003 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ptitboul
Extensis Portfolio is fine too. I am very happy to use it.
I would have to give Extensis Portfolio the nod as well. I have used both Cumulus and Portfolio but always come back to Portfolio....usually for the ease of making cross platform cataloged art discs.

For just managing my digital photos I find nothing wrong with iPhoto. It is easy to use, works seamlessly with my digital camera, is great for sending out low-res version via email and it is free!

I don't do any editing in iPhoto, that is what I have Photoshop for but it is hard to beat it. I wish I had it on the PC....I have tried a ton of programs and none work as well as iPhoto.

djn1 10-12-2003 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rspress
I have tried a ton of programs and none work as well as iPhoto.
Have you tried iView MediaPro? I have to say that I found iPhoto a complete dog in comparison, mainly in terms of its speed - or lack of it. In an attempt to make iPhoto less than slothful I created multiple libraries (which necessitated using iPhoto Library Manager - but then, of course, you can't have multiple libraries open at the same time). Even with relatively small libraries (500-1000 images) iPhoto was still really s l o o o w. Selecting a range of images took an age.

Also, iPhoto's propensity for hiding images within its rather arcane folder structure is a pain. Normally, if I wanted to do any further work on an image it was easier to export the image rather than try and find the original.

iView MediaPro, on the other hand, allows multiple catalogues, images can be placed in a folder structure that suits you, image selection and all other operations are extremely fast ... and so on.

If you haven't tried it, despite its cost, it really is a much better product that iPhoto.

rspress 10-12-2003 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djn1
Have you tried iView MediaPro?

If you haven't tried it, despite its cost, it really is a much better product that iPhoto.
I may have tried it sometime in the past but I only use iPhoto for personal use, which for me works fine. If I was making a living with it I am sure I would find something much better and faster. Iphoto was never meant to be a workhorse for grapic artists and it shows!

I use ACDSee on the PC and it does well but the Mac version was not all that great or that fast. Since I had a back injury a couple of years ago I don't really have the need for much more than personal programs at the time. I will give MediaPro a spin if they have a trial version....it is good to keep up on things even if I don't have a need for them right now.

Thanx:D

djn1 10-12-2003 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rspress
I will give MediaPro a spin if they have a trial version....it is good to keep up on things even if I don't have a need for them right now.
Yes, they do - I think you get a 21 day trial. I should add that I don't use it for pro work - graphics for me is a hobby rather than a job, but it makes the whole process a lot more enjoyable. If all you need is an image browser iView might not be worth the cost, but give it a try and see what you think.


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