OS X Ships tomorrow (Wednesday)
 

Well, well. Anyone reading this actually brave enough to install it tomorrow? Let us know how it goes.

Just upgraded to 10.6 last month. I'll let you early-adopter types try it out first.

Normally, I'm pretty quick to install a new OS on a secondary partition. This allows me to try it out and also test the lesser-publicized features that others document. A few weeks after 10.x.2 is released is when I typically move to the new OS as my default. But my machine won't run 10.8. I could see that coming when 10.7 was released. All told, I'm brave enough, but I'll have nothing to report.

I have one Mac that won't run it and one that will.

I'm tempted to see whether ML has fixed the bugs in Lion that plague me, and whether Dictation is any good. I'm quite interested in Notes/Reminders and Notifications.
But it doesn't seem that much of a big deal compared to previous OS improvements.

As usual, the folks at Macrumors are creaming themselves, wanting to download it the minute it becomes available.

10.7.5 and some new iMacs are much more of a necessity to me.

Does anybody have a list of things that changed between Lion and Mountain Lion?

The things I've seen so far don't give me a warm fuzzy feeling, so I think I'm going to skip this one.

http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html

As with Lion, John Siracusa of Ars Technica is expected to give an in-depth review.

I'm concerned about the potential impact on AppleScripts, Typinator, Keyboard Maestro, and others that may fall afoul of sandboxing. I'll wait for more reports. TidBITS already has an article about the effects on AppleScript and Script Debugger is having problems with TextEdit and Mail scripts that the Script Editor doesn't have. Since I'm a committed SD user with no intention of switching to AppleScript Editor, I'll wait for all that to be resolved.

Yes, I'm worried about the sandboxing, too. If you can't delete or create files with AppleScript (or Unix shell scripts), then that would be ridiculous.

Here's the TidBITS article: "How Mountain Lion Changes the Rules for AppleScript". The changes are definitely not good for a scripted. PITA, in fact. I suspect that until all that works out, I'll stay well away from Mountain Lion.

Those changes don't concern me as much as I feared. The article just points out that a script will be auto-saved in a "inert" format if it can't be compiled.

I thought it was going to suggest that AppleScripts were limited in scope by sandboxing.

One thing I don't like from the Ars Technica review: Dictation requires an internet connection to work. Completely useless for me, as the sort of places I would use it have no network.

My beef is that with each evolutionary step, Mac OS X becomes more a closed ecosystem and less MY computer to do with as I please.

Please explain. What can't you do with Mountain Lion?

I don't know anything about Mountain Lion yet, chabig; I have several apps important to me that are not yet fully up to it, not least Script Debugger which I use a lot. It has troubles, at least for now, with TextEdit and Apple Mail and with ML's changes to the way it deals with AppleScripts. My point, though not well stated, is that little things like making ~/Library/ invisible require chasing around to get the system back the way I want it to be and there seem to be lots of them. Another was reversing the direction of scroll bars. I've been using Macs since 1986 and I'd like my habits to still apply. I'll comment further when I've finished reading John Siricusa's review in Ars Technica: OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion: the Ars Technica review

I assume you mean visible**. But since you use Keyboard Maestro, I'd suggest not even bothering with making it visible and simply set up a macro. If it's of use, I have these Finder-only Maestro macros (among others):

~/Library: Command-Shift-L
/Library: Command-Option-Shift-L
/System/Library: Command-Shift-S

And remember, you can easily set up that first one in Maestro since any Open/Save dialog can display invisible files by pressing Command-Shift-. [period] once the dialog is present.

Edit: No, you meant invisible. I misread what you were saying.

They made it invisible. I run a little script app at login that makes it visible again. All it does is:

started reading it and saw just how big of a review this is...whoa, daddy! I laud Siricusa for exploring the more philosophical aspects of Mac OS X (yeah, I said it!) but I was also hoping for just The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

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Installed on iMac (90 minutes to d/l, 30 minutes to install) and running smoothly. Installing on MacBook now. Love the Notifications. I don’t have an iPhone so the Siri like dictation tool is new to me and although I tried it I do not see much purpose for it in my life.

Excuse me? You downloaded Lion in 90 minutes? I envy your connection!

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Oh, I thought that was slow. In the past I have had speedy downloads and garnered the envy of my son. Kudos to Comcast in Tucson, I guess.

On the MacBook Air (12 inch from 2010) it also took 90 minutes to d/l. We have great weather here as well.

Did anyone see the gizmodo beta review a while back? Interesting reading to say the least.

Another long one. Saved to Instapaper. Looks like a day long task to read it. Thanks for the link.

Disappointed that I had to reset Safari preferences; the old prefs should have carried over into Mountain Lion.

I have an external CAC card reader connected via USB that is no longer seen in Parallels. Otherwise, everything I have works.

Having just finished Siracusa's review (a loooong read), I'll have to admit that it seems that in most respects, Mountain Lion is a win. When my important apps catch up, I'll go there.

I fixed my own problem. Knowing that Parallels requires kernel extensions at the lowest levels of the OS in order to function, I uninstalled Parallels (using the uninstaller), rebooted, reinstalled Parallels, then rebooted. Now everything is fine.

I'll note for anyone sticking with 10.7 that the Safari 6 upgrade is not easy to downgrade if you prefer version 5. There are indirect hints in advance, namely that v. 5.1.7 for Lion can no longer be downloaded from Apple and the fact that v. 6 is only available using Software Update (that's not a temporary thing as the Safari page notes "The latest version of Safari for Lion is available through Software Update.")

But install it I did. It seemed fine in the hour I used it. Speed seemed improved (expected), the installation didn't require a restart (that's new), and bookmarks are even more of a second-class citizen than before (happens with every release). But I wanted to revert to the earlier version, mostly because of one little feature of Glims I use often that broke (an Add Bookmark Here item which can be shown in bookmark folders—combined with a utility like Keyboard Maestro it enables quick, folder-specific bookmarking).

I had already downloaded the 5.1.7 installer for Lion from a third-party software site. Installer.app wouldn't proceed since I had a newer version of Safari. So I used Terminal to delete Safari.app since that usually allows an installation to proceed when downgrading. Nope.

At that point I figured it's looking at something in /System/Library where WebKit frameworks are installed. That's not a place I figure I should be messing around too much, especially since other applications like Mail and iTunes also use WebKit. So I copied a clone from just before the Safari upgrade back to my boot volume.

Not a problem on my end, but perhaps something others using 10.7 might want to know.

Weird. When I follow that link, iTunes goes to the Store Home page.

If I copy the address and paste it into an empty window, iTunes doesn't go to the Store., Nor if I just browse through the Apple website to that page.

They've revised it a bit & brought it up to date. Very interesting.

Indeed. Not terribly complimentary at all. ^~^

Some of their observations are spot on, but i don't imagine anyone at Apple bothers to read Gizmodo.

No, I wouldn't imagine they would. I'd be interested to know which, if any, opinions they do read regularly.

To paraphrase Dirty Harry: Opinions are like *******s. Everybody has one. ;)

The ones that AGREE with them - no doubt :rolleyes:

No poo Sherlock!;)

.....and i vaguely remember the days when Apple actually wanted to listen to their users.... Happy days