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snowwwman 06-23-2003 08:51 PM

is this a wireless router ?? from what i can gather it is. if so do you have a cordless phone? sometimes if you have a cordless phone that is operating on the 2.4ghz band it interupts the signal of the wireless station. ( causing a loss in connectivity to wireless clients) check your phone to see if its 2.4ghz if it is try boasting your interface robustness.

thatch 06-23-2003 08:59 PM

Looking back at the whole thread from the start, I think he's been on hard wired routers connected with ethernet cables.

snowwwman 06-23-2003 09:01 PM

i thought i saw the word wireless somewhere in there. if not sorry.

stupid me

wonstitel

thatch 06-23-2003 09:03 PM

Whoops! You were right. One pc laptop has a wireless card.

snowwwman 06-23-2003 09:04 PM

yeah i jsut found this

The routers lights do not change. However, this router only shows (lights up) Power, which ports are being used; Wireless-B; and Internet.

i was just skimming so i wasnt sure

thatch 06-23-2003 09:39 PM

Yup, and there was this from page 1 early on:

"The Pc and Mac are hard-wired to the router. The laptop pc has a wireless card..."

kfaulhaber 06-23-2003 11:14 PM

Yes, many ISP's block outgoing mail to any but their own SMTP servers. Mine is one of them, however, as stated before, the question was wheather the router was blocking outgoing mail. Also, any wireless signal can be distrupted, but wouldn't cause a permanent loss of connectivity. Of course, until the original poster returns, we are just talking amongst ourselves.

LonHS 06-24-2003 10:13 AM

To answer: The email situation was bizarre. Entourage worked perfectly well when the Mac was directly connected to the modem. When using the Mac and the PC and the netgear router I could receive but not send on the Mac but I could send and receive on the PC. I even contacted Microsoft since both the Entourage and Outlook programs that I was using were Microsoft products. Netgear support technicians who said there should be no difference between sending from a PC or a Mac and could not help me resolve the issue. At the time, both the PC and the Mac were wired to the router via ethernet cable (as they are now). My final resolution was to purchase the Linksys which does allow the proper flow of email through both computers.

At the moment, I am exploring the possibility that the PC might be responsible for the current problem (interruption of internet connection). I was unable to take the time to try and ping the router when it went down yesterday because I was in the midst of some important work. But I took your advice and just powered down the router instead of all the equipment and it worked! The PC is running an old windows 98 with an update but now may need to be updated to XP. The operating system seems to be "falling apart." It's got some strange bugs like not being able to shut itself down. I am waiting to see if I lose my connection while the PC is off and just the laptop and Mac are running off the router.

snowwwman 06-24-2003 11:06 AM

the strange bug might be a hack. someone could have got you and changed some stuff in your registry. do you have wep enabled on your wireless connection? have you changed the default password on your router?

LonHS 06-24-2003 11:43 AM

Interesting. I will check those settings. Thanks for the heads up.

LonHS 06-26-2003 07:29 AM

Latest Information: I am not wep enabled; the default settings were all changed. The last time I attempted to ping the router when the connection was dropped it did not answer. I will try the procedure again. So far, I still lose my connection daily.

yellow 06-26-2003 07:50 AM

I never saw if you loose both machines at the same time or not.

LonHS 06-26-2003 08:59 AM

Yes, I actually lose all three; both desktops (ethernet cables) and the laptop (wireless card). I was powering all the equipment down and back up to reestablish the connection. Now I just have to power down the router and when I power it up it, I'm reconnected. I'm not sure if that's significant here.

yellow 06-26-2003 09:06 AM

So it's the router that's dying. I think that router it busted, no matter what Linksys techs say. Just to keep them from asking you the same question, try removing a machine from your network (turning it off will work) to see if one of them is causing the router to hiccup and take the other 2 computers with it. Rotate until you been thru all the possibilites. Tedious? Yes? Eliminating possibilities? Yes.

tlarkin 06-26-2003 04:39 PM

I just read through this whole long string of posts here. I can give a testimonial here. I have and use a Linksys router. It works great. Linksys just also got bought out by cisco, and cisco is going to implement some of their technologies into consumer linksys routers. Now, however, this is my second Linksys router. Here is how my network at home is set up.

4 xp boxes
2 ibooks (wireless)
1 G4 desktop
1 Linux box
Linksys router crossed over to a D-Link 8 port switch
Belkin wireless access point.

Now on my first router everything worked fine for about oh I would say 3 to 5 weeks. Then I started losing connections somewhat similar to you. One day I lost connection, but every machine hooked into my extra switch worked fine, and every machine that was in the routers switch did not. Long story short I exchanged the router and it all works great now. Linksys routers are great when they work I guess. Especially since you cannot go into 192.168.2.1 (which by default is the routers ip on all linksys routers) tells me its a problem with the router. I would agree with yellow on this, and thought I would share my similar experience.

rusto 06-26-2003 08:01 PM

Um, I thought 192.168.1.1 was the default IP for LinkSys routers...at least it is for mine.

yellow 06-26-2003 08:11 PM

I think 192.168.2.x is Macs with "Internet Sharing" turned on?

tlarkin 06-26-2003 08:44 PM

hmm okay I stand corrected I have 3 linksys routers and all are 192.168.2 .1. (The linksys rep came through a few years ago and dumped like 25 of them off for us, thats how I got 3)

LonHS 06-29-2003 09:47 AM

Now that I am using the Mac more than the PC desktop, I have the PC off for part of the day. However, I have noticed that when I power it up, I lose my internet connection. This could be just coincidence because many of those times, I've been away from both computers which means they've been idle long enough for me to lose the connectionn the way I had before. I guess I just have to figure out a way to determine whether it's a faulty router or something between the PC and the router or both. By the way, my default Linksys IP was 192.168.1.1 but the linksys tech assistant had me change it during one of the calls I made regarding this problem.

anthlover 06-29-2003 11:01 AM

I have Linksys and Multi OS Systems running
 
I have Linksys and Multi OS Systems running: Just Fine.

It must be somthing with the Router. I never loose tough with it.

My Systems never loose touch with the router. Loosing touch with the ISP is another story. That happens periodically, but is beside the point here.

The Default settings in Linksys set no limitations on your continued connectiivty to the router.

****** Exchange the router. If you live near a Radio Trash or Best Buy or another store that offers a money back you could buy/borrow one from them if yours came via Mail Order....

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If you bought from Amazon and many other mail order vendors they offer Advance Exchange. You then tell them the router is no Good. They send you a replacement. You send back the original they pay for all shipping.

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One last note once you have a Stable Rig, and this might be part of your Problem.

In fact you could test for it by Disconeecting from the Internnet and waiting for a failure to communicate with youu router (unplug router from DSL, Yes you will have no Internet access and wait for a failure to communicate with the router).

You may be coming under Wired or Wireless Attack. You eventually want to change your password from admin to somthing else. You want to change your router IP to somthing other then 192.168.1.1 e.g. 192.40.40.1. You want to turn of broadcast of your sites wireless name, you want to change the name of enterging you network to somthing other then linksys, etc.


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