Clickable emacs
 

How do I / Is it possible to

get emacs with menus and windows that I can click - without installing fink?

What is Fink exactly?

Why do people say you have to install Fink to get all those other programs to work?

Thanks

Fink is an utility that has prebuilt BSD & X11 packages. For the programmer & non-programmer alike this makes life very easy.. I no longer have to download and try to build nmap on my own hoping that the libs will match up or geting the pieces parts needed to build it right. I need only type (when fink is installed) "fink install nmap" and away I go! You don't have to use fink, but if you've got the option, why not use it?

I believe XEmacs has what you are looking for. It's a far more GUIfied text editor then it's predecessor. It's probably going to be easier to install fink and use fink to build it then trying to do it on your own.. unless you like a challenge.

http://homepage.mac.com/pjarvis/xemacs-21.5.9.html


contains OS X native version of XEmacs which does not require X11 to be running.

Just another option.

Ah cool find Java_guy!

Yellow, check out other version . There are 2 - one from Mindlube and one from Enrico fanconi at Macupdate.com.
However, I was not able to open /save file from remote server by either of them. Are you able to do so? Let me know if you have.
Though they wrok amazing on Linux/Unix.
SS

I love Enhanced Carbon Emacs.

You can find 21.3.50 versions of regular emacs here
 

Xemacs and Emacs have a long history of disagreement, and I'm not about to get into all the differences. However, they do seem to be converging in many ways these days.

If you are trying to find a regular emacs that has clickable menus, you can find one at: http://mindlube.com/products/emacs/index.html There are a few different varieties there. I personally recommend the one from Andrew Choi, who did a lot of work to make one that works well with Panther.

Does this one can/open file from/to remote ftp server?
SS

Isn't there a way to get the native emacs of mac os x to open in a new window when you summon it from the terminal app, and that way it has all the buttons? I understood that X11 was involved in some way. I know that the latest emacs 21 or whatever it is has all the buttons without having to be XEmacs. I cant figure out how to get the terminal app to squirt emacs into a separate window though.

Jen

Terminal.app isn't X11. So opening emacs from within Terminal.app won't open a new window. To do that you'd have to launch emacs from within an xterm within X11. Supposedly it supports new windows in X11, but I've not been able to get it to work right using the built-in emacs. So I installed Xemacs with fink.

When you say "Supposedly it supports new windows in X11", do you mean that the terminal app is meant to be able to send it's emacs to the X11 which will then produce the emacs window?

Jen

If I install XEmacs with fink then how do I get the terminal app to launch that as my default editor? I have:

# set editor
setenv EDITOR "emacs"

in my .tcshrc file just now. Do I just change it to

# set editor
setenv EDITOR "XEmacs"

Thanks,

Jen

No. I mean supposedly if you read the man page the default emacs should be configurable to open in a new window, in X11 (not from within Terminal.app), but I've never managed to get it to work.

I'm doubting that you can open emacs within Terminal.app and have it automatically open X11. Maybe with a script.

open -a X11 script_to_start_emacs

I installed with Fink the package emacs21-xaw3d with X11 support and 3D bars and also installed the Xemacs package. If X11 is running, I can open emacs in a GUI window from Terminal.app without problems. And using an AppleScript saved as an application, I can open both, Apple's X11 and emacs21-xaw3d.

That sounds like a good idea. I'm having a bit of trouble doing it. Have you any idea of what I'm doing wrong from the feedback below:

[catfish:~] jclark% fink list -i emacs
Information about 1499 packages read in 5 seconds.
[catfish:~] jclark% fink install emacs21-xaw3d
/usr/bin/sudo /sw/bin/fink install emacs21-xaw3d
Password:
Information about 1499 packages read in 2 seconds.
Failed: no matching version found for emacs21
[catfish:~] jclark%

Thanks :)

Please post the results of:

fink --version

To install the package emacs21-xaw3d in Panther, you need to 'enable' Fink to use the 'unstable' branch. Edit the /sw/etc/fink.conf file and add to the beginning of the "Trees:" line:

unstable/main unstable/crypto



Save the file and then run the commands:

fink index
fink selfupdate
fink install emacs21-xaw3d

[catfish:~] jclark% fink --version
Package manager version: 0.18.4
Distribution version: 0.7.0

Copyright (c) 2001 Christoph Pfisterer
Copyright (c) 2001-2003 The Fink Package Manager Team
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.

Hi,

I did this bit now:

[catfish:~] jclark% fink list -i emacs
Information about 3835 packages read in 8 seconds.
i emacs21-xaw3d 21.3.50-20 Flexible real-time text editor, v21.3, w...
i emacsen-common 1.4.15-1 Common facilities for all emacsen

I started X11 and and then typed 'emacs' at the command line in the terminal app, and emacs opened as a text thing the way it does normally, inside the terminal window. Is there something else I should do?

I didn't relly get what you meant when you said this:

'And using an AppleScript saved as an application, I can open both, Apple's X11 and emacs21-xaw3d.'


Thanks,

Jen
:)

Hi again,

I read http://forums.macosxhints.com/showth...ght=%24DISPLAY

and put

if (! $?DISPLAY) then
setenv DISPLAY :0.0
endif

into my .tcshrc file and now the emacs window pops out of the terminal window when I type 'emacs'. It has all the buttons and everything.

Jen :)

You can start both Apple's X11 and emacs21 by running from Terminal.app:

open-x11 emacs21



--Also, you can write an AppleScript and save it as an application:

Open /Applications/Script Editor.app:


Copy/Paste:

Save it to the Desktop as an Application. Copy/paste a nice icon over it and put it in the dock.

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