Well, that seems to go along with what MacBidouille claims.

You gotta wonder if these people are all just quoting each other or if there are different sources involved.

I did see a few weeks ago that GCC 3.3 was committed to CVS with support for the 970 and the Power4 rolled in. I'm hoping we see some of the IBM development tools make there way into either Apple's stuff or as a separate product offering. Who knows what Moto will do with CodeWarrior?

What do you folks think about the 15" PowerBook? 970 or the new Motorola 7457?

Hmm.. I think it'll be quite some time before we see a 970 in anything but a desktop. So I guess I think 7457.

I agree; I think the G4 and IBM modified G3 will be around for a while, yet.

Think they'll move the G4 into the iBook eventually? That'd make a pretty nifty iBook. While I am excited about the 970, I must admit, I can't really conceptually grasp what a difference I will see. The G4s & Jaguar seem pretty durned fast to me. That aside, like most fans of Apple products I'll be drooling over the 970 when it comes out. Now the hard part is fighting the neigh-overwhelming urge to go into debt to but a new G5 Mac! :)

Hehehe;

I read that the version of Jag (10.2.7) for these guys is code-named 'smeagol/gollum', where smeagol will run on the current hardware, but gollum will only run on the Precious. :D

LOL!

O gosh... more speculation! :cool:

It would be great to get a new G5-based Mac, but I bought my 867DP MDD in Sept 2002 and can't justify selling it to upgrade quite yet. This baby's got a few years left in her yet.

And besides I just bought a new house. I can't afford a new computer... :( Damn :(

this 970 chip sounds cool and all, and i have a silly question to ask. how come on the dells and other intel PCs they have 2ghz or more on their machines.
why are macs still astonished at 1.2 or 1.4ghz? i know its a diff. architecture but are the chips not all the same. why dont we see 2.something yet on macs?

You answered your own question, and then defeated it :). It's a totally different architecture, so the 2 GHz aren't really comparable. Relying on MHz to say 'my computer is faster than yours' is something for slack-jawed salesmen. While the AMD/Intel chipset has more cycles per second, they need it because of all the overly-complicated instructions on each chip, and the lengthy 'size' of the data pipe. This was how Apples managed to keep up in the early years of the G4, because the data pipe was short, and so was the instruction set. So while their MHz ceiling was much lower, they were comparable in 'actual' speed. However, since they hit the ceiling IBM/Motorola's chipsets have been left in the dust. The G5 has been a long time in coming. I hope someone will correct any errors I have written here.

[edit: I did indeed mean 2 GHz! Thanks Craig]

I think you mean '2 gHz' and not '2 mHz.' ;)

Otherwise I recommend the Ars Technica article mentioned in the opening post of this thread as a place to begin to understand the answer to the questions asked. It's somewhat heavy going in areas, but if you bear with it, it does explain a few things.

eWeek report
 

This just about wraps it up. It looks like 'smeagol' is the build of Jaguar that runs on the 970, and it's going to be Panther (and gcc 3.3) that we'll be waiting on.

Rare to see the hardware outpacing the software (for a welcome change).

isnt panther due in july and 970 end of year?
upgrading to panther on our machines will mean what, just a faster booting-up time? better window resizing? in other words this new os is targeted at making full use of the new hardware???

First part: apparently not. ;)

Second part: I don't think we know much about how Panther will perform on current hardware yet.

Third part: I'd say those are the exact words. :)

good one Craig, thanks:p

Smeagol
 

Can't believe that dirty Jobsies wants to put poor Smeagol on the filthy G4sies! Poor Smeagol.. where is the precious? *gollum* *gollum*

MacWhispers
Interesting tidbits:
G5 Powerbooks?
2-2.5 times the speed, even with 10.2.6?

Holy Cow! :D

I wouldn't trust Macwhispers, quite a bad track record. Stick to Thinksecret and the eWeek stuff. Better yet, be patient and await the shiny new toys which are noisier than a Toshiba Satellite on a humid day.

Toshiba Satellite? you mean Plymouth Satellite?

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donning my foil helmet

Brrrrm brrrrm!

:D