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DeltaMac 01-17-2011 11:46 AM

The only facts that I have - 922-9622 is the Apple part number for the sensor cable for W-D hard drives, and only for the 2010 iMac 21.5-inch. The 27-inch has a different part, for example.
I also can't tell you if that connector port is the same wiring pinout for all W-D SATA drives. That information is not available on the public sites.
I also can't tell you if that same cable that was on the original Samsung would also work on a different Samsung model. I have no knowledge about that, except that Apple doesn't tell service folks everything, either. There's no mention in the most up-to-date Apple service manual that Samsung hard drives are being used, and nothing about the sensor cables for those. They can't be ordered separately, and would only come with an actual Apple-stickered Samsung hard drive. Again, I have no information if that original Samsung sensor cable will work on a different Samsung model.

edalzell 01-17-2011 11:50 AM

hmmmm....ok. Thanks a lot DeltaMac....I guess this is why the hard drive is not user replaceable. Sigh.

edalzell 01-20-2011 04:36 PM

OK, I was told by a tech at my local Mac shop that I should use an older analog temp. sensor. is the 922-8196 the right one to use?

http://applecomponents.com/items/922...96&per_page=30

edalzell 01-20-2011 04:45 PM

Or even: https://www.applecomponents.com/item...-optical/?pn=1

DeltaMac 01-21-2011 07:15 AM

None of those appear to show an actual sensor on the cable. There was one, but you don't know if the logic board connector is correct (might be OK)
If the Apple shop has a good guess about what might work - take your iMac in, and have them test it out.
All this time that you are taking, could have been spent better actually using your iMac with the right parts.
Another possibility is to contact applecomponents.com directly. They may know what you need.

macsolver 01-21-2011 08:33 AM

Interesting
 
Hi,

Here is a link to a 27" Imac HDD replacement guide which shows the temperature sensor cable being plugged into a Western Digital HDD.

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/I...acement/1634/4

Regards,

Nick

edalzell 01-21-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaMac (Post 607826)
All this time that you are taking, could have been spent better actually using your iMac with the right parts.

I don't understand this statement DM, I have been using my Mac the whole time while I try to figure this out. What is your point or suggestion here?

DeltaMac 01-21-2011 07:20 PM

You have been looking for the correct temp sensor cable for the W-D hard drive that you want to use. The resources that you have found do not give assurance that the parts available will work, or even fit. I also suggested that you should directly contact that non-Apple parts supplier, to see if they actually have the correct part. Apple has that part, and you'll probably have to pay to have them put it in, because Apple doesn't typically sell spare parts to every Joe who walks into the store looking for replacement parts.
You did choose to forgo the optional hard drive size when you purchased your iMac originally, and it sounded like you knew already that you wanted the larger hard drive capacity.

If you had known beforehand about the challenges to completing the hard drive upgrade, would you have decided to simply order the iMac with the larger hard drive from Apple?

edalzell 01-21-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaMac (Post 607911)
You did choose to forgo the optional hard drive size when you purchased your iMac originally, and it sounded like you knew already that you wanted the larger hard drive capacity.

the base model, the one I can afford, could not be ordered from the site I ordered it from with an upgraded HD

Quote:

If you had known beforehand about the challenges to completing the hard drive upgrade, would you have decided to simply order the iMac with the larger hard drive from Apple?
I knew I would need to do some work, but I didn't envision it would be this difficult. Ordering the upgraded machine from Apple would have added nearly $750 to my total cost. So for $95 for a 2 TB HD, I thought the risk was worth it. Once I find the right way to do the upgrade, even if I have to pay my local store to do it, will save me money.

I was hoping to do it myself yes, and I am still hopeful that I will be able to. If I can find the right temp sensor, then it should be doable, which is why I am trying to confirm that now.

DeltaMac 01-21-2011 07:53 PM

re-read my own post, and I think I was being a little snippy (well, OK, a lot snippy!)
Not my intention, and I hope you didn't take offense.

Maybe someone else can offer a good suggestion about alternate sensor cables. It's my opinion that this internal sensor on the hard drive is not easy to discover which pins to use, as they are undocumented by each manufacturer, AFAIK.Apple knows what you need, eh?

edalzell 01-21-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaMac (Post 607916)
re-read my own post, and I think I was being a little snippy (well, OK, a lot snippy!)
Not my intention, and I hope you didn't take offense.

no worries, you have been v. helpful so far.

Quote:


Apple knows what you need, eh?
Probably, but I doubt they will release that information. I'm hoping to either talk to one of these parts companies or convince my local store to help me (which he may not, and I would understand).

I'm also considering buying 3 or 4 sensors and seeing which one works and returning the rest. Still saves money and gets me going.

I can still buy a Sammy HD, but my local tech said that sometimes that doesn't work either and these analog ones are the best.

edalzell 02-06-2011 02:22 PM

Success!

I purchased this cable with my Western Digital Caviar 2 TB drive (WD20EARS).

The key is to have the white dot on the connector facing up.

I would also recommend keeping the original cable and drive as if you want to get warranty work done, apparently you have to put it back to original state.

My machine is still extremely quite (like it was before) and I now 1.75TB free to fill up!

I posted this follow up in case anyone else is searching for this (as I couldn't find anyone else who had done this successfully).

Thanks for all your help.

Jasen 02-08-2011 12:38 AM

Thanks for the followup. Others have replaced the drive, just generally without the temp sensor connected and living with full-blast fans going.

edalzell 02-08-2011 12:46 AM

Temperature sensor was trivial to replace if you've gone as far as getting the hard drive out.

hpx 02-16-2011 05:51 PM

Apple Hardware Test Error Code, Samsung HD and loud fan on iMac 27inch i5
 
I have a new 27″ iMac and the 1.0TB Samsung HD inside. Once booted the fan will begin running at ~ 2500 RPM. It will continue to increase in speed until it reached very near max speed…..4500 RPM!!!!!!!!!! not quiet.

Running hardware diagnostics generates error 4SNS/1/40000000:TH00-9.000

DeltaMac 02-17-2011 07:02 AM

If you replaced that hard drive yourself, then you don't have the correct sensor cable, as has been discussed on this thread. If, OTOH, your hard drive is original, then take your new iMac to an Apple service shop or retail store for more testing.

sdhhs 07-06-2011 01:12 PM

WD thermal sensor pinouts?
 
edalzell, do you know what pins on the Western Digital HDD were for the thermal sensor? Personally I would rather refit my Seagate cable than have to buy a new one. Especially since Apple Components is currently down.

edalzell 07-06-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdhhs (Post 628966)
edalzell, do you know what pins on the Western Digital HDD were for the thermal sensor? Personally I would rather refit my Seagate cable than have to buy a new one. Especially since Apple Components is currently down.

Sorry man, I don't remember which pins they were and I found that the Samsung cable did not fit on the WD drive. They probably make them specific for each drive.

pawn3d 02-16-2014 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macsolver (Post 607836)
Hi,

Here is a link to a 27" Imac HDD replacement guide which shows the temperature sensor cable being plugged into a Western Digital HDD.

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/I...acement/1634/4

Regards,

Nick

Mine 21.5 2011 iMac came with a Samsung and it was branded with an Apple logo.

By the way, the cable wasn't fused to the drive, I just disconnected it and put a new one in. I hardly see what the big deal is.

acme.mail.order 02-17-2014 02:50 AM

Hopefully in the past 2-1/2 years he got something going (last comment added in July, 2011).


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