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VirtualTracy 10-11-2010 08:42 AM

... what happened to the OP?

tlarkin 10-11-2010 09:51 AM

I am still waiting on my Quad-core Mac mid tower. I don't want an all-in-one per se, and I don't need a Mac Pro. I want a mid-tower with a i5 or i7, 6 gigs of RAM, and an actual decent video card.

Apple has always been behind on the video card market. I have steam on both my Macs and my PCs. All my steam games on the Mac get significantly less frames per a second. It is totally playable, but not as good.

I have always wanted a pro-sumer Mac desktop. I like my iMacs at work in my office. They are nice. However, my work buys that stuff for me. If I were to go out today and buy a Mac, I'd probably buy a mini, but to be honest I could build an equivalent mini for way cheaper.

As far as the OS goes. I think it is pretty solid, but could probably take on some UI tweaks. Allowing for manual setting of resolutions, font sizes, window sizes, etc. A system roll back would be nice too. Like if you apply an update that breaks tons of stuff, the ability to roll back. I guess time machine does this if you backup your whole system, but to be honest I don't like TM all that much. I have already had bad experiences with it, when users use TM to back up their own data and then I have to restore it for them. A system roll back should be different than a back up.

renaultssoftware 10-11-2010 10:29 AM

…could take on some UI tweaks.

How about someone updates the CoreUI files?

tw 10-11-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualTracy (Post 598334)
... what happened to the OP?

Most likely dragged off by Apple Security (the little-known iSpy division). I expect he's off somewhere being deprogrammed, and will return with a new, more user-friendly interface. I've heard rumors they use circuit-boarding these days; I'm not too sanguine with the moral ramifications of that.

hyuck, hyuck, hyuck...

tlarkin 10-11-2010 03:22 PM

I would also love to see better enterprise support. Print servers, more robust group policy, better enterprise calendar system (iCal server is a huge pain), and better chit chat with other existing enterprise products.

That though, is all one giant pipe dream. I would love to see it though, and it would make my professional value go way up.

Craig R. Arko 10-13-2010 01:37 PM

It appears we're going to find out more about what's going on Oct. 20th.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1548...nt_invite.html

It can't come soon enough. :)

tlarkin 10-13-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig R. Arko (Post 598539)
It appears we're going to find out more about what's going on Oct. 20th.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1548...nt_invite.html

It can't come soon enough. :)

sweet!

*adding in more characters to meet the limit

renaultssoftware 10-13-2010 08:38 PM

Lion? I can't wait to see its heart. :rolleyes: Probably 64-bit.

Jay Carr 10-14-2010 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renaultssoftware (Post 598575)
Lion? I can't wait to see its heart. :rolleyes: Probably 64-bit.

Some sort of pagan ritual I'm not familiar with? ;)

I had hoped they would avoid using Lion for any of the OSs, but hey, what are you going to do? I would have preferred Lynx, because it's fun to say. Or maybe Ocelot!

Anti 10-20-2010 03:29 PM

I hate to come back to this topic, but it looks like 10.7 is beginning the "let's assimilate Mac OS X into iOS" process. App Store? Home screens? What?

If Apple is going to turn the Mac into a giant iPad with more powerful components, then I can't agree with that.

petersconsult 10-20-2010 04:11 PM

Lion, eh?

I'm sure all of you are delighted to see me back here ;-)

But, in my defense, i may not have expressed myself the best way possible (far from it..), but i *Love* the Mac. Always have (since the first one).
Of course, i have an iPhone 4 -- and i really love it too...

But, deep down, i still think iOS is 'gadgety' -- meaning it makes for really cool-looking gadgets..

Computers are still, to me, unparalleled for content creation: in so many ways, iOS lets you enjoy the stuff that was *created* on MacOS


So… Lion.. Did you know that's the fattest of the large felines? Must be because of all those useless, slow, and redundant gooey additions it got in its diet... ;-)


Basically, the one 'great new feature' is what amounts to some intern's summer project: make the iOS home screen work on a Mac, no matter how irrelevant it is, or how graphically hideous (and slow)…

No mention of new, or even just improved, technologies -- like the universally demanded expanded functionality for QuickLook, or an expansion of OpenCL..
I know all of you think i'm wrong in criticizing the Mac's OpenGL implementation, but X-Plane (a pro-Mac software if there ever was one) runs almost twice as fast on a Mac when booted in Windows, rather than in MacOS!!
That is just plain wrong, and the fault lies squarely on Apple for its poor OpenGL and its weak GPU drivers.

At least, you can tell from the new iLife apps that Lion is moving towards a matte 'solid-scrollbar' UI (as was expected); this means that, despite the aforementioned iOS transplant, Apple understands that the best UI is the one that occupies the least space, time, and resources, all while getting the job done ever faster and easier.

So.. i'm sure i've made more enemies -- which is really, really not my goal here: i just want to open some honest, constructive 'tough-love' discussion about our oh-so-beloved platform, the Mac..

I hope some constructive discussion comes from this ridiculously hot-headed, drunken post…

Cheers!
Peter

PS: still no 10.6.5... Even thought the last three dev releases have been flawless, but i guess iOS's AirPrint (or whatever it's called) is more important than addressing actual Mac-related issues...
OK, i promise, no more drunk-talk from me... tonight anyway...


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