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fazstp 09-01-2009 05:24 PM

The Snip
 
Just wondering about vasectomy :o. To be honest I'm squeamish at the best of times so I'm not exactly keen but I thought I'd get a consensus.

Photek 09-01-2009 05:46 PM

just run me through the reason why one would get the snip....

I can't for a second think of one good reason :)

EatsWithFingers 09-01-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Photek (Post 550118)
just run me through the reason why one would get the snip....

I can't for a second think of one good reason :)

As a relative of mine (who had it done many years ago) once said, "Any time, any place..." :D

AHunter3 09-01-2009 07:19 PM

I walked home. The most pain I experienced was from the shave of nether parts (skin totally NOT used to being scoured with a razor didn't take to the experience at all).

Being dosed on a pretty wicked set of cc's of IV Valium dismissed the nervous squeamies. Nothing was of concern for me, I was the jolliest guy anywhere to be found.

fazstp 09-01-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Photek (Post 550118)
I can't for a second think of one good reason :)

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Originally Posted by EatsWithFingers (Post 550139)
As a relative of mine (who had it done many years ago) once said, "Any time, any place..." :D

That's certainly one argument that I have heard from my wife. The theory is that shifting the burden of contraception results in higher frequency. I'm not sure I buy it though. I can see that you might see short term gains in guilt sex but beyond that I kind of have my doubts. :rolleyes:


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Originally Posted by AHunter3 (Post 550144)
I walked home. The most pain I experienced was from the shave of nether parts (skin totally NOT used to being scoured with a razor didn't take to the experience at all).

Being dosed on a pretty wicked set of cc's of IV Valium dismissed the nervous squeamies. Nothing was of concern for me, I was the jolliest guy anywhere to be found.

That's semi-comforting. But it seems like more of an argument for pharmaceuticals than for vasectomy ;).

edalzell 09-02-2009 09:18 AM

For us it removed the risk. Our second child was conceived when my wife was both breast feeding and on birth control, so obviously normal measures weren't sufficient.

The process took 7 minutes for me and only resulted in a few days of discomfort. The worst part was the itching as the hair grew back in!

capitalj 09-02-2009 12:28 PM

My wife decided that two was the limit while she was very pregnant with our second child. She came to the conclusion that it would be best for tubal ligation to be performed right after birth because:
  1. she already would be in the hospital anyway
  2. the additional procedure wouldn't noticeably increase the pain she would already be experiencing
  3. it wouldn't be a good time for me to be out of commission for even a few days
So I never had to consider a vasectomy, but I did have to suffer the scorn of several nurses who refused to believe that my wife made the decision on her own and was happy with it.

Woodsman 09-02-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by capitalj (Post 550260)
So I never had to consider a vasectomy, but I did have to suffer the scorn of several nurses who refused to believe that my wife made the decision on her own and was happy with it.

I don't normally defend misandrists, but perhaps they had just that morning met someone like the husband of a friend of mine, who after three kids made her have her tubes tied rather than his, on the explicit grounds that if she died he might want to have more children with someone else. :(

Photek 09-02-2009 01:37 PM

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My wife decided that two was the limit
was that children.... or testicles? :D

seriously guys... I don't know that I (at the ripe old age of 32) could ever consider un-dooing what god gave me... I am not a big fan of cosmetic type surgery of any sorts...

And as for the shaving.... eeek!... I ma not a fan of the 'back, sack and crack'.... or any one of those on their own :)

Jay Carr 09-03-2009 09:54 AM

There's needs to be another option in the pole, something like "will consider when the time comes". I'm 26 and have no kids, but if I have 3 by the time I'm 35...it's quite likely I'll start considering having a vasectomy. My dad always told me it was polite for the guy to be the one getting "fixed" because it's less invasive.

My reasoning is this: I'm not opposed to birth control anyway, so when I get to the point when I don't feel I can support further children, why not just use the ultimate form of birth control? (Well, you know, other than the really obvious "not so fun" option...:D).

ArcticStones 09-03-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Carr (Post 550414)
(Well, you know, other than the really obvious "not so fun" option...:D).

Uh, sir? I’m afraid there was a little mishap during your surgery. The good news is that we need some more singers for our church choir...
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Jay Carr 09-03-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 550424)
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Uh, sir? I’m afraid there was a little mishap during your surgery. The good news is that we need some more singers for our church choir...
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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

capitalj 09-03-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsman (Post 550271)
I don't normally defend misandrists, but perhaps they had just that morning met someone like the husband of a friend of mine, who after three kids made her have her tubes tied rather than his, on the explicit grounds that if she died he might want to have more children with someone else. :(

I think my wife's response to such a suggestion would have rendered me infertile.

Woodsman 09-03-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by capitalj (Post 550497)
I think my wife's response to such a suggestion would have rendered me infertile.

Quite right too! Alas, it was a done deal by the time I knew her, or else I might have offered to solve the contraceptive problem along the lines you suggest.

trevor 09-03-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 550424)
Uh, sir? I’m afraid there was a little mishap during your surgery. The good news is that we need some more singers for our church choir...
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I suppose that a vasectomy is still technically an operation and should be treated as having dangers. But these days it's the tiniest little thing possible. The incision is only something like 1.5mm - 2mm long. There's the barest minimum of bleeding. You're awake the whole time. It's less painful than getting a filling put into a cavity in your tooth. It's the tiniest of nothings as far as operations go.

In the typical procedure (there are variations) they make a tiny incision, fish out the vas deferens from one side, snip it, cauterize it, put tiny metal caps on each end, then repeat for the other side. The tiny incision heals quickly.

Trevor

fazstp 09-03-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by trevor (Post 550502)
You're awake the whole time. It's less painful than getting a filling put into a cavity in your tooth. It's the tiniest of nothings as far as operations go.

Man I think I'd rather be knocked out thanks. I nearly faint when they take blood so I can't imagine I'd take too well to them taking to my nether regions with a scalpel :eek:. I think my blood pressure's quite low so it doesn't take much to make me light headed.

fazstp 09-03-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by trevor (Post 550502)
It's less painful than getting a filling put into a cavity in your tooth.

It's funny, pain I can tolerate. Like getting a filling I'm more phobic about the needle. I'd rather get drilled without the anaesthetic than face up to the needle. Doesn't make a lot of sense pain wise but who said phobias were logical.

warragul 09-05-2009 08:02 AM

After 4 kids and with the wife convinced the 6 she originally wanted was a bad idea I offered to have it. She couldn't take contraceptives without problems. I wasn't convinced that me being sterile would keep her from getting pregnant but there you go... :)
The operation was no problem (I love pethidine ... never been so relaxed) but the internal stitches festered giving me several months of discomfort.
Now, nearly 35 years later, I can say it's been a great boon.

warragul 09-05-2009 08:07 AM

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I'd rather get drilled without the anaesthetic than face up to the needle.
I'm with you. Haven't had the needle at the dentist's for ages. I've had fillings in my front teeth and a gold stud screwed into one tooth with no anesthetic.
Before you say I have a low threshold to pain, I haven't. A good dentist can minimize the pain and needles give me the willies.
Every time I go for a cholesterol test I have to look away. It's not the pain; a slap on the arm hurts more. I don't like my skin being broken.

Woodsman 09-05-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by warragul (Post 550872)
Every time I go for a cholesterol test I have to look away. It's not the pain; a slap on the arm hurts more. I don't like my skin being broken.

I can't watch the needle going in. Whenever I have a blood test, I look away, and the nurses -- who can be very condescending to the inferior, male, sex -- assume I'm a total wimp. No, the sensation doesn't bother me, and I can't watch anyone else being needled either. I even look away from injection scenes in films.

ArcticStones 09-05-2009 10:47 AM

Marathon Man -- please pass the Novocaine
 
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Originally Posted by Woodsman (Post 550890)
...and I can't watch anyone else being needled either. I even look away from injection scenes in films.

Then you may wish to skip Marathon Man, with Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Olivier. A great film, but the scenes where Dustin is strapped in the dentist’s chair and being interrogated by Laurence Olivier...

Come to think of it, that film may well have inspired the wrong people. :eek:
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fazstp 09-05-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsman (Post 550890)
I can't watch the needle going in. Whenever I have a blood test, I look away, and the nurses -- who can be very condescending to the inferior, male, sex -- assume I'm a total wimp. No, the sensation doesn't bother me, and I can't watch anyone else being needled either. I even look away from injection scenes in films.

My five year old daughter puts me to shame. Not a whimper when she had blood taken but I had to look the other way.


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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 550893)
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Then you may wish to skip Marathon Man, with Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Olivier. A great film, but the scenes where Dustin is strapped in the dentist’s chair and being interrogated by Laurence Olivier...

What about the dentist in Little Shop of Horrors?

warragul 09-07-2009 06:00 AM

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No, the sensation doesn't bother me, and I can't watch anyone else being needled either.
I had to leave the room while my son's hand was sewn up. Just a couple of stitches. I don't think he's ever forgiven me.

fazstp 09-14-2009 04:21 PM

I guess it's heartening that there are no yeses with regrets. I made the mistake of googling botched vasectomy.

kel101 09-14-2009 04:40 PM

i think im too young for this one lol

NovaScotian 09-14-2009 05:42 PM

While I've never had a vasectomy, my brother has. He swore by it; didn't like the idea of his wife on birth control pills forever, preferred a quick snip, you're done for life.

GavinBKK 09-24-2009 01:47 AM

I was going to have one, then wimped out. Well, saved by the Doc actually. They have some strange medical preconceptions here in Thailand and the Doc told my wife that "your husband is a big man and big men do not recover well from this kind of op"... What a bunch of garbage! But I was saved and she got tied at the time of delivery. I think I owe that Doc a bottle of Scotch. ;) I do think vasectomy is basically a good idea though.

Marlboro Man 09-24-2009 02:11 AM

Maybe later?

I'm 33, and while I can recognize the reasons for it, I just couldn't, now. I know they can be reversed but I think waiting is best for a number of reasons that I'd prefer not to put into words at this time. My wife is a few years older than I and already got "fixed" when we met, so there's really no point.


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