esd xmms and starting both

[tamenti]

How come this command:
open-x11 esd -nobeeps & ; open-x11 xmms &
Doesnt work when this one does:
open-x11 esd & ; open-x11 xmms &
Its exactly the same command. Only, the last one had the " -nobeeps" removed.
They are both run in the Terminal (not the x11 xterm).
I wanted to get rid of the, very high, beeps esd gives at start up.
The command:
open-x11 esd -nobeeps &
Does start esd, but xmms, for some reason, wont work.
Am I doing something wrong? The beeps are quite high, and I would hate to wake some poor soul in the middle of the night :)

[ericw13]

Following this hint (http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030110062251974), why not just put 'setenv DISPLAY :0.0' in your .tcshrc and run X apps without open-x11?

I have some idea (without knowing anything specifically about open-x11) that the -nobeeps flag is getting passed to open-x11 and not esd. Too bad there is no man page for open-x11 and it does not respect -h nor --help.

<mumbles about lazy non-conforming programmers and their lack of documentation>
Eric

[tamenti]

I changed my enviroment, and can now start both esd and xmms from the Termninal without the "open-x11".
The bad news, though, is that sometimes I can start xmms and xmms wil then start esd and it all works, sometimes it doesnt. The sure way is to start esd, with no parameter (right word?), and then xmms. But then I get those loud start-up beeps from esd that Im trying to avoid. If I start esd with -nobeeps xmms will not work :(