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MBHockey
02-20-2005, 01:38 PM
I recently (4 weeks ago) opened up a .Mac account. So far i'm really liking it, and one thing that has truly impressed me is the lack of spam emails i have seen so far. I haven't gotten one email that would be considered spam, yet.

The gmail account i had been using for the past 8 months has become so overrun with spam, that i had no choice but to switch to .Mac (i didn't buy .Mac for their email service, but i'm glad email is included now.)

My question is, do you other .Mac users get spam email? Is it just unpreventable no matter how hard you try? I am much more careful with my .mac email address now, so hopefully i can limit it.

Also, the 125 MB limit scares me, being only 1/8th the space i had with a free Gmail account. Does anyone think a free upgrade might occur? (possibly to keep up with other email services?)

yellow
02-20-2005, 01:54 PM
Yes, I've gotten spam through my .Mac account.

No, you really cannot stop spam, no matter what you do. Following best practices, you can minimize it, but without governemental legislation, it'll never stop (even then it's questionable if it'll stop).

No, I seriously doubt there will be a "free" upgrade.

CAlvarez
02-20-2005, 01:58 PM
Sounds to me like you don't know where spam comes from, and why you get it. If that's the case, it's only a short matter of time until your .Mac account is also flooded. However, I can tell you for a fact that GMail gets spam for NO EXPLAINABLE reason, so I don't know if Google themselves are selling out their userlist or what. I say this because I created a GMail account and then didn't do anything at all with it, and it's full of spam.

Spam mostly comes from giving your e-mail address to questionable companies. If you sign up for anything "free" on the internet, guaranteed you will get spam. Same with any adult sites, gambling, or piracy-related sites. What gets the most people though is internet freebies and offers. I finally got my mom to understand this, created a new account for her, and *poof*, no more spam again.

I have my own mail servers, so I give every single company a different e-mail address. This way I know who is spamming me, and I turn off the account (or forward it to their sales or corporate contact!). None of the big companies (Amazon, eBay, Paypal, banks, etc) have ever spammed me, but a few smaller ones have. I don't sign up for freebies or porn, so nothing from those.

MBHockey
02-20-2005, 02:03 PM
Thanks for that. I know i had used my gmail account for some questionable things (free iq tests, online poker rooms, and when buying things from small online companies, etc.) So maybe i'll just continue to use my gmail account for things i consider slightly questionable, and use my .Mac for all my personal emailing.

CAlvarez
02-20-2005, 02:40 PM
Great idea. I always urge people to have a junk account so they can receive one thing when desired, and otherwise just "delete all" regularly.

schwartze
02-20-2005, 04:55 PM
I too have both a .mac account and a gmail account. Actually I think it was you MBHockey who hooked me up with the gmail account. Thanks again!

Neither one of them gets Spam, except from ebay who have again and again not responded to my opt out requests.

Now my work email which is an exchange account is flooded daily with Spam and the only thing keeping me sane with that is that I use Mail at work rather than Outlook to get the messages. I am heading on vacation for a week and just can't wait to get back and do all the cleaning out of that mailbox, but for the other 2 I don't worry very much.

I am contemplating ditching the .mac account when my year is up because all I use it for is the email and I am very happy with the gmail filter.

silentrage
02-20-2005, 07:37 PM
I have both, gamil and a dot Mac account. I don't get a lot of spam in either one. Over them time I've had my gmail account, since early last fall, I may have gotten about 10 spam e-mails (and they all go to the spam folder). I have dot Mac for almost 2 years and rarely get spam there. I have a junk mail folder set up so if I do it goes directly to the junk mail folder.

Caius
02-20-2005, 07:38 PM
I have started to get more and more spam email to my .Mac email, but thats coming to my Spam email alias. palethorpes@... All I shall do is when I get annoyed, change the alias to something else and start using that for my dodgy email. my other four alias's don't get spam, and my proper email doesn't either.

Las_Vegas
02-20-2005, 09:26 PM
Spam mostly comes from giving your e-mail address to questionable companies.I had virtually no SPAM on my Cox accounts until Cox switched me to their national email server. All but one are private and unpublished. Suddenly I started getting dozens a day to all of the accounts, each addressed to multiple Cox accounts with similar names. What this tells me is that the Cox email list is easily available to hackers. Fortunately, Cox has since added a SPAM blocker that's reduced that number to about four a day, but it was so much better when my accounts were private.

CAlvarez
02-20-2005, 09:41 PM
What this tells me is that the Cox email list is easily available to hackers.
Not exactly. Cox has so many customers that its profitable for spammers to use dictionary lists and simple incrementation to try to deliver to random addresses. One example is to take a list of last names (generic list of names, not customers) and then increment a first initial A-Z with each one.

This is happening to some of my clients, so people with common names are getting random spam. We know this because we see thousands of bad addresses come in too following the same pattern.

yellow
02-21-2005, 07:28 AM
The same thing happens to my Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail, and .Mac accounts.

MBHockey
02-21-2005, 07:35 AM
I was reading up on spam and how it works on howstuffworks.com, a very interesting read: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/spam.htm

Man that site is great!

mark hunte
02-21-2005, 07:41 AM
With my ISP I can setup up to 500 email aliases, which I use a lot for anything that I now purchase online or have to leave an mail address..

Th adavantage of this is if I buy some thing from say, musthaveapp.com

I can set my email address for that site as some thing like
my-musthaveapp@myisp.com

This means if I get spam on this email address I know where to point the finger.
And also I can kill the address with not to much worries .

I also use this sort of thing to email friends who have a habit of doing mass all rounders and may be putting my email address at risk.

The other thing I notice is that addresses with numbers in seem to get less junk.

TJDraper
02-21-2005, 09:49 AM
I have had my .mac account for almost a year and I have NEVER gotten a junk email there. Not even on my junk alias (I try not to even use questionable sites with even my alias, for those I use a strictly junk mail addy).

I like the email part, but I DESPISE iDisk. I had to quit serving my website from .mac. It would take FOREVER to upload or download stuff. And that was if it didn't crash the Finder :mad:. I finally started serving my website off of a regular ftp server. Upload speed tripled at least.

Whoa, getting off topic here. Sorry about that. Just had to gripe about it. I love .mac email.