mclbruce
12-09-2003, 11:15 PM
I have been a Camino user since before Safari came out. I tried Safari for the first time recently and I think I'll stay with it.
There are two reasons why I decided to give Safari a try. Reason one: Camino and OS X 10.3 do not get along well. There is some sort of a screen redraw bug. Sometimes web pages come up all white and need to be minimized and maximized before you can read them. Reason two: Apple is making Safari the default browser on new computers. Clients and would-be clients will be using it. Apple is supporting it. It will make my life simpler if I can learn to live with Safari.
So far there is not a lot I like better about Safari, but it's not bad. I have managed to overcome most of the things I really don't like about it.
Importing bookmarks from Camino was a chore. I moved my bookmarks from Camino to Internet Explorer, then threw away my Safari preferences and started up Safari. If I had to do it again I'd use the debug menu in Safari. Moving bookmarks from Safari to other browsers does not look easy either.
I don't like Safari's metal look, but it was kind of fun de-metalizing it with Xcode Tools. I followed the hint on the Hints side of this site, and even moved the toolbar items down a bit to improve the appearance in aqua. So now I have no metal and no problem.
For a while I thought I could not drag text to the desktop in Safari and make a text clipping. I found out I just have to wait a second or two while clicking on the selected text before I can drag it. I can live with this.
I notice no difference in popup blocking, which is good in both. I was able to turn off looping of animated GIFs in Camino, I haven't found a way to do that in Safari. I read that specifying a style sheet in Safari preferences can help with things like this.
After reading a hint on the MOSXH site, I set up keywords in Camino to go to web sites and to do searches at web sites. I really missed this in Safari until I found out about Sogudi. I think using Sogudi in Safari is superior to making keywords in Camino.
http://www.atamadison.com/w/kitzkikz.php?page=Sogudi
I like the way Camino draws in web page better than Safari's fill in from the top down approach, but Safari seems a bit faster. I'm on cable modem with a good broadband connection, and the pages just seem to come in a little faster than they did in Camino.
Basically I think they are both good browsers. I probably would have stayed with Camino if it wasn't for the screen redraw problem. I'm glad that Apple is making a browser that's as good as Safari is.
There are two reasons why I decided to give Safari a try. Reason one: Camino and OS X 10.3 do not get along well. There is some sort of a screen redraw bug. Sometimes web pages come up all white and need to be minimized and maximized before you can read them. Reason two: Apple is making Safari the default browser on new computers. Clients and would-be clients will be using it. Apple is supporting it. It will make my life simpler if I can learn to live with Safari.
So far there is not a lot I like better about Safari, but it's not bad. I have managed to overcome most of the things I really don't like about it.
Importing bookmarks from Camino was a chore. I moved my bookmarks from Camino to Internet Explorer, then threw away my Safari preferences and started up Safari. If I had to do it again I'd use the debug menu in Safari. Moving bookmarks from Safari to other browsers does not look easy either.
I don't like Safari's metal look, but it was kind of fun de-metalizing it with Xcode Tools. I followed the hint on the Hints side of this site, and even moved the toolbar items down a bit to improve the appearance in aqua. So now I have no metal and no problem.
For a while I thought I could not drag text to the desktop in Safari and make a text clipping. I found out I just have to wait a second or two while clicking on the selected text before I can drag it. I can live with this.
I notice no difference in popup blocking, which is good in both. I was able to turn off looping of animated GIFs in Camino, I haven't found a way to do that in Safari. I read that specifying a style sheet in Safari preferences can help with things like this.
After reading a hint on the MOSXH site, I set up keywords in Camino to go to web sites and to do searches at web sites. I really missed this in Safari until I found out about Sogudi. I think using Sogudi in Safari is superior to making keywords in Camino.
http://www.atamadison.com/w/kitzkikz.php?page=Sogudi
I like the way Camino draws in web page better than Safari's fill in from the top down approach, but Safari seems a bit faster. I'm on cable modem with a good broadband connection, and the pages just seem to come in a little faster than they did in Camino.
Basically I think they are both good browsers. I probably would have stayed with Camino if it wasn't for the screen redraw problem. I'm glad that Apple is making a browser that's as good as Safari is.